The Liberalism of Corporate America (ethics, companies, abortion, supporter)

[Egbert]

Originally Posted by pnwmdk

What subsidies and tax breaks would those be?


Tax break: Define this.

Subsidy: The government giving money to someone to do something they would not do if not given the payment to do it.

Tax: The government taking money from some person or entity without compensation and without returning anything.

So in otherwords, no you like the government picking winners and losers in business.

[Tom Lennox 70]

Phil Robertson did NOT make any racist remarks. All he talked about was his personal observations of the blacks he worked with. He worked with them, they were all blue collar, working class folks and he did not feel or act like he was above them. Phil DID NOT claim that segregation was better the way Strom Thurmond did. He was not in the Klan like the Democrat Senator Robert Byrd was. He did not use the N word like Kanye West does. All he said was that the blacks who worked with him were happy. He did say something about entitlement but that had nothing to do with Jim Crow.

I think before the age of entitlement people of ALL colors had more pride and respect in themselves.

[texdav]

I think corporates do what they see as making them the profits they exist for really.They love us government money going to them in contracts etc. as much as anyone. Its like Hollywood stars who appear one way professionally then you look at their elite gated security life styles.They have squeezed the Hollywood that once was to cheaper locations to fund their pockets not to benefit of many lower paid workers. As to Robertson's; gay's just didn't see the backlash from suppressing others rights to beliefs and expressing them. Really no different than what they should have learned in the California gay marriage vote.

[Clark Park]

Originally Posted by pnwmdk

Socialism and Fascism are almost identical. Both are extreme left.

Wrong.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70

There is no homosexuality in my community.

As far as you know.

[BoomBen]

Originally Posted by lowrimol

Really we are becoming more of a fascist state. The corporatism of America only cares about it's profit margins. Along with that there is concern over the perception of the company by the media. Ask yourself who owns the media and what their agenda is. That is why even if the majority of Americans were conservative, they would still follow the money.

This^

Many facets of National Socialism has pervaded our government over the last couple of decades.
The two party system, many believe we have, is a complete fallacy.

[BoomBen]

Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA

As far as you know.

haha- I was thinking that too.

[mensaguy]

Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA

As far as you know.

Good comment. He's only been in his current community for a few months. There are gays and lesbians all over, so I suppose he just hasn't met any.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by Enigma777

Ok let's be "precise". Fascism is associated with the left? Here are some definitions and identifiers of fascism. Please precisely explain how these traits of fascism are exhibited on the left:

Powerful and continuing nationalism.

hmmm YES WE CAN...or lets NATIONALIZE the oil companies.....more hopey changey

"secret history of the American left":

Woodrow Wilson's Progressivism featured a "militaristic, fanatically nationalist, imperialist, racist" program, enabled by the exigencies of World War I.
Franklin D. Roosevelt's "fascist New Deal" built on and extended Wilson's government.
Lyndon B. Johnson's Great Society established the modern welfare state, "the ultimate fruition" (so far) of this statist tradition.
The youthful New Left revolutionaries of the 1960s brought about "an Americanized updating" of the European Old Right.
Hillary Clinton hopes "to insert the state deep into family life," an essential step of the totalitarian project.
To sum up a near-century of history, if the American political system traditionally encouraged the pursuit of happiness, "more and more of us want to stop chasing it and have it delivered."

fascists are socialists...the left...not the right

""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini

advisor to carter, bush1, Clinton, cheny and obama: ....Zbigniew Brzezinski ...............""This is a form of Socialism known as fascism, and it will be the type of world government the power elite plans ultimately to bring about and control. In this government, the power elite will control politicians who will become government leaders who will promulgate laws, rules and regulations favorable to certain transnational corporations"""

We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler

"The aim of socialism is not only to abolish the present division of mankind into smaller states and all-national isolation, not only to bring the nations closer to each other, but also to merge them." Vladimir Ilynich Lenin

"As things stand today, the trade unions in my opinion cannot be dispensed with. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions of the nation's economic life. Their significance lies not only in the social and political field, but even more in the general field of national politics. A people whose broad masses, through a sound trade-union movement, obtain the satisfaction of their living requirements and at the same time an education, will be tremendously strengthened in its power of resistance in the struggle for existence".

sounds like something pelosi would say...yet it was hitler who said it

"A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the people by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the people, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul alinski

“Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which diverent interests are coordinated and harmonised in the unity of the State.” - Benito Mussolini

The Fascists were completely against individualism in general and especially against individualism in a free-market economy. Their agenda included minimum-wage laws, government restrictions on profit-making, progressive taxation of capital, and “rigidly secular” schools.
Unlike the Communists, the Fascists did not seek government ownership of the means of production. They just wanted the government to call the shots as to how businesses would be run.
They were for “industrial policy,” long before liberals coined that phrase in the United States.
Indeed, the whole Fascist economic agenda bears a remarkable resemblance to what liberals would later advocate.
Moreover, during the 1920s “progressives” in the United States and Britain recognized the kinship of their ideas with those of Mussolini, who was widely lionized by the Left.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by cuebald

It's not the left. George W. Bush tried to get a general amnesty for the illegal Mexicans in the hope that they would turn into a reliable voting block for a GOP that was rotting from the inside. The Democrats kept him from achieving his goal, and all that are left in the republican party are old white men who are steadily dying off.

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you mean ted kennedy

The 1986 Immigration Reform Act that rewarded illegal aliens with amnesty was known as the Simpson-Massoli bill of 1986. When first drafted, the bill was suppose to make it a criminal offense for aliens who were not authorized to work in the United States a federal criminal act and that it would be a federal crime for employers to hire illegal aliens.

Here's what happened, the Democrats in Congress refused to sign on this bill unless the 1.5 million illegal aliens already thought to be in the country illegally and would qualify for amnesty were rewarded amnesty. (reason being, if these illegal’s were to become U.S. citizens, guess what party they would most likely vote for ? )

So the amnesty part was added on to the bill other wise the Democrats wouldn't sign on. And to muffle the out cry, the American people were told that this amnesty was a one time thing and would never be repeated again.

Well the bill passed both houses of Congress and President Reagan signed the bill. In the inner circles of the administration, Ronald Reagan was to have said he may have made a mistake by signing the bill.
Guess what ?, it wasn't 1.5 million illegal aliens who would have qualified for amnesty. It turns out that over 3 million were rewarded with amnesty, mostly because of the fraud that took place during the amnesty process. Phony rent receipts, phony pay check stubs, liberal judges expunging criminal records of illegal aliens!!!

And after the bill became law, you had Teddy Kennedy watering down the enforcement part of the bill that had to do with enforcing and prosecuting employers who hired illegal aliens.




why is it the liberals CONSTANTLY push for amnesty???

liberals constantly want to give the illegals amnesty

9 amnesty bills writen by....ted kennedy....8 passed

you might want to COMPLETE that picture...there have been 9 amnesty bills, 8 PASSED, since 1965....ALL authored by Ted Kennedy

In 1986 Senator Kennedy said, ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.’


Here is Ted Kennedy commenting on the 1965 immigration bill,Quote
“The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission.” End of Quote.

In 1994, Ted Kennedy’s Section 245(i) Amnesty gave legal residence and jobs to 578,000 illegal aliens. It was a temporary rolling amnesty primarily for extended family members of immigrants who instead of waiting in line, come on to the country illegally.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy’s extension of the Section 245(i) rolling amnesty was followed by an increasing flow of illegal immigration.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy also won an amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America. Illegal immigration sped up some more.

In 1998, Ted Kennedy won an amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy got the so-called Late Amnesty, legalizing another 400,000 illegal aliens who claimed that they missed out on Kennedy’s 1986 amnesty.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy also won the LIFE Act Amnesty for an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. It was another reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty...an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. Illegal immigration accelerated.