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Old 12-25-2013, 09:08 PM
 
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Both are running thin through mismanagement and poor handling. When the economy is doing tough people believe that wealth and jobs are static quantities. There is still so much opportunity in America even with the amount of illegals we have. I agree with enforcing the immigration laws and deporting illegals but the amount of actual impact they have on the employment rolls is negligible.
Not true. Their presence here is a big negative impact on our blue-collared American workforce. Not to mention that they reduce the wages for those who are employed.
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Old 12-25-2013, 09:11 PM
 
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*Their primary language.

Also that's a generalization. Does every Hispanic choose Spanish? No, I know from first hand experience that is not true. First generation immigrants will just about always choose their native tongue but their children start to assimilate and their grandchildren are fully Americanized.
You're right, they don't "all" choose Spanish as their primary language of usage but a good majority of them do. Otherwise why do I constantly hear them speaking exclusively in Spanish out in public from every generation?
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Old 12-25-2013, 09:21 PM
 
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Another BS post. The jobs you are describing have been taken over by illegal aliens not legal immigrants. Why would an American worker work for half of what they use to get until the arrival of cheap, illegal labor? Americans have always done those jobs and many other blue-collared jobs for a fair wage and would continue to do so but these greedy employers break the law and hire illegal aliens instead to fatten their wallets.
And they're not paying the illegals $10 an hour, either.
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Old 12-25-2013, 10:10 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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If all foreign born residents of America disapeared, what would happen?



We wouldn't have any foreign residents.
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Old 12-26-2013, 07:12 AM
 
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I am mixed on my original question but one thing that I hear over and over from champions of huge increases of immigration is they have skills that American born residents don't have. I find this to be naïve and off-putting. You mean to tell me that because someone was born in America they lack skills, a work ethic and the ability to be creative?

With 250 Million people in the USA who were born in America, you can't find someone with the skills to keep our business and governmental organizations going?

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Old 12-26-2013, 07:59 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I am mixed on my original question but one thing that I hear over and over from champions of huge increases of immigration is they have skills that American born residents don't have. I find this to be naïve and off-putting. You mean to tell me that because someone was born in America they lack skills, a work ethic and the ability to be creative?

With 250 Million people in the USA who were born in America, you can't find someone with the skills to keep our business and governmental organizations going?
It really means immigrants that have the skills are willing to do the work for less money than Americans that have the skills. So great, America is slowly working its way toward paying highly educated, highly skilled workers peanuts. Once we sink to the level of the third world countries they come from, maybe we will stop importing them.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:08 AM
 
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Both are running thin through mismanagement and poor handling. When the economy is doing tough people believe that wealth and jobs are static quantities. There is still so much opportunity in America even with the amount of illegals we have. I agree with enforcing the immigration laws and deporting illegals but the amount of actual impact they have on the employment rolls is negligible.
There was a recent article of how an illegal alien was working as an police officer. Apparently her mother didn't tell her she was illegal. I am sure there are thousands, perhaps millions of similar cases in other industries.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:17 AM
 
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I am mixed on my original question but one thing that I hear over and over from champions of huge increases of immigration is they have skills that American born residents don't have. I find this to be naïve and off-putting. You mean to tell me that because someone was born in America they lack skills, a work ethic and the ability to be creative?

With 250 Million people in the USA who were born in America, you can't find someone with the skills to keep our business and governmental organizations going?
I agree.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:33 AM
 
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*Their primary language.

Also that's a generalization. Does every Hispanic choose Spanish? No, I know from first hand experience that is not true. First generation immigrants will just about always choose their native tongue but their children start to assimilate and their grandchildren are fully Americanized.
I tend to disagree. Most hispanics I encounter will deliberately speak Spanish instead of English even though they know English. Very few that I know speak English over Spanish.

Becoming Americanize is speaking English as your first language & native tongue.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:43 AM
 
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Americans would have to do the grunt jobs that they did.
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