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Old 12-27-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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It is not a Muslim nation , it was founded on Christian principles. Our faith in God is through Jesus Christ .
What a crock! List a couple of those "Our faith in God is through Jesue Christ" principles.
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Old 12-27-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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Is that not what I just posted?

Legally, the US is a secular nation. Or as you put it, "a nation with no official religion." It is the same thing.

By population, the US is a Christian nation. Or as you put it, "one that happens to have a Christian majority." It is the same thing.

So when someone says "the US is a Christian nation," it is safe to assume they are referring to the majority of the population, not how the laws are enacted or enforced.
The US is a nation with a majority heterosexual population.The US is not a heterosexual nation.
The US is a nation with a majority female population. The US is not a female nation.
The US is a nation with a majority Christian population. The US is not a Christian nation.

Why is this so hard to understand??
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Old 12-27-2013, 03:36 PM
 
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Jews and Christians believe in the same God.
A god that had a pack of bears kill children for laughing at a bald man.

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It is not a Muslim nation , it was founded on Christian principles.
That's funny, because none of the Popes believed that.

I'm guessing you've never read Humanus Genus.

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It is how one acquires their money. If they lie , cheat and steal to get it , they must love it to attain it to cheat anyone.
Uh-huh...and how, exactly, did the US and its Citizens become wealthy?

Well, let's see....US oil companies, backed by the US government, fraudulently entered into a contract with the Mexican government to produce oil; US oil companies and the US government fraudulently agreed to take 92% of the profits, and give Mexico 8% of the profits; the US oil companies with the full-backing of the US government then fraudulently devalued their assets to show losses, in order to avoid paying Mexico the 8% profits to which it was entitled by contract, and corporate income and property taxes to which Mexico was entitled by law.

Having sued the US oil companies in Mexican court, and after having the Mexican Supreme Court order US oil companies to pay back-royalties and taxes owed, the US oil companies, with the full-backing of the US government refused, resulting in the Mexican government expropriating all US oil company assets...which is how Mexico's petroleum industry came to be nationalized.

The theft and fraud committed by the United States in Mexico, and also in Cuba, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, Dominican Republic, Brasil, Venezuela, Argentina, Chile and other Central/South American States is what allowed you to build the infrastructure for your vast telecommunications network.

Accordingly, your use of the telecommunications network in the US makes you both an accomplice and an accessory after the fact to murder, torture, fraud and theft.

In a violent rage, Jesus over-turned the tables of the money-changers in the Temple......why aren't you following his example and knocking down cell-phone towers and telephone lines?

Curiously...


Mircea
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Old 12-27-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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practically all were Christian believers.

Religious Affiliation of U.S. Founding Fathers

Episcopalian/Anglican 54.7%
Presbyterian 18.6%
Congregationalist 16.8%
Quaker 4.3%
Dutch Reformed/German Reformed 3.7%
Lutheran 3.1%
Catholic 1.9%
Huguenot 1.9%
Unitarian 1.9%
Methodist 1.2%
Calvinist 0.6%
You do realize at the time you had to be Anglican to be allowed in to the professions in most of the English domains (Many colonies were not religiously liberal like Rhode Island and Pennsylvania). Thus anyone who wanted to be a lawyer, officer, politician, or other respected gentleman in places like Virginia and other Crown colonies had to be Anglican on paper. Whether they actually all agreed with the Church positions on matters faith and government is highly doubtful since many were professed Masons and Deists and if they did they probably wouldn't have tried to overthrow the Monarch.
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Old 12-27-2013, 03:50 PM
 
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I have one more thought: Every single State constitution in US mentioned God
But it doesn't define God nor associate it with Christianity. I do think that you're right, however. State constitutions should not reference God. We're already ahead of the curve by not acknowledging God in terms of legislation at either the state or federal level. It's just a matter of fixing the texts at this point.
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Old 12-27-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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Since the authors were all Christian, every reference to God is also a reference to Christ.
This is false. Many Christian authors were for no involvement of Christianity in the government and wanted God to be up to individuals to interpret. Perhaps if you had gone to school in the US, you would know this.
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Old 12-27-2013, 03:53 PM
 
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They did not want to invoke a denominational battle by allowing the Federal government to support one denomination over another. They left it up the States to craft their own Constitutions, and sure enough every single one wanted to mention God in them.
Each and every state has made mistakes. We should not fault them for this stupid one, but rather focus on fixing the mistakes.
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Old 12-27-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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I hope you people do realize that the reason that the government is set up NOT to support any one religion simply because no religion is good.
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Old 12-27-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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I hope you people do realize that the reason that the government is set up NOT to support any one religion simply because no religion is good.
citation?
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Old 12-27-2013, 04:58 PM
 
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citation?
Just a simple logic. If a religion were so good, why would not the government supports it? :-) So they are either equally good, bad or equally useless.
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