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Old 12-28-2013, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by AppalachianAmerican View Post
There is accountability. Like anything else you start banning things its a slippery slope. What about ordering people on medicaid/medicare they can only see a doctor that's government approved!?

Working people get food stamps as well.True its going to break eventually. We need more work programs and make it to where unless you truly are disabled like mentally and physically can't do work. You should be getting a skill on the governments dollar,this will include transportation to and from and child care if you need that. In WV I know you can only get TANF for 5 years before its cut off and you MUST either work or go to school to keep getting it during those 5 years.More work programs less welfare programs eventually but this is what keeps politicians in office. They don't want educated workers...they want people that will pull the lever for them but I don't believe in cutting these people off I believe in fixing the problem here.

They have tried striking even had union folks try and set stuff up but media usually ignores it and the ones that do strike or try to unionize are fired then most people mostly republicans cheer for corporate interests were upheld but complain about having to pay for more welfare.
Banning fast foods, potato chips and soft drinks is a slippery slope? If you are poor and need to stretch that SNAP or EBT allotment, it would help if you were not allowed to use it at Burger king. For the price of a Whopper Value meal you can easily cook a meal for 3.
Accountability? Please expand upon that.

 
Old 12-28-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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Banning fast foods, potato chips and soft drinks is a slippery slope? If you are poor and need to stretch that SNAP or EBT allotment, it would help if you were not allowed to use it at Burger king. For the price of a Whopper Value meal you can easily cook a meal for 3.
Accountability? Please expand upon that.
I have NEVER seen anyone use an EBT card at Burger King...you got an example? If that's the case then Burger King should deny them. Far as I know you can't buy hot food with EBT...some stuff made in the deli you can but not much...
 
Old 12-28-2013, 08:38 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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If that's "so true" then why are you buying your kids soda and chips and yourself monster drinks at the gas station with your EBT card ?
The reason is that kids get sick off these foods. Which means they get to poppin pills young. So big pharm makes money. That is why they lobby so kids can get all the junk food they want.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 08:40 AM
 
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I have NEVER seen anyone use an EBT card at Burger King...you got an example? If that's the case then Burger King should deny them. Far as I know you can't buy hot food with EBT...some stuff made in the deli you can but not much...
True, you can't purchase ready to eat meals with SNAP.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 08:41 AM
 
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I have NEVER seen anyone use an EBT card at Burger King...you got an example? If that's the case then Burger King should deny them. Far as I know you can't buy hot food with EBT...some stuff made in the deli you can but not much...
No matter how hard you try Appalachian, you can not defend abuse and the American people are sick of the abuse coming from people who take advantage of the tax payer. This means people on welfare and big government and their cronies.

People on welfare don't have skin in the game, they don't pay taxes yet they can vote. Their votes are bought by politicians to help politicians take advantage of the tax payer from all sides.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Then how did the media and the gov make a determination that a lot of folks were using their cards for porn, strip clubs and alcohol?
I said the government doesn't release the data.
They certainly have it and use it to make changes.

There is no monthly statistical report on usage available to John Q. Public.

The is the monthly report they release to the public.

SNAP Monthly Data
 
Old 12-28-2013, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The USDA also reports that 28 percent of adult participants in SNAP were employed. Another 24 percent were unemployed and looking for work.
Note to Newt: Many Food Stamp Families are Working - Forbes
I wonder if that has increased at all. Still in the minority but its a large minority.
28% is not large by any means.
That means 72% are NOT working.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 08:48 AM
 
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The reason is that kids get sick off these foods. Which means they get to poppin pills young. So big pharm makes money. That is why they lobby so kids can get all the junk food they want.
I agree. Our medical industry is set on treating conditions, not curing or preventing them. The average medical student never takes a nutrition course. Not one. Obesity causes these secondary diseases and symptoms, but they only treat the secondary symptoms, not the primary disease. Same thing goes for erectile dysfunction, it's more times than not caused by high blood pressure, but instead of saying, "loose weight, get yourself healthy" the doctors will just prescribe medication to treat the ED.

Most children grow up eating out of a box or from the "orange food group". It's cheaper and easier for the parents/parent.

If you eat s**t, you'll have a s**t body. And s**t bodies keep the medical and pharmaceutical industries going.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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True, you can't purchase ready to eat meals with SNAP.
Some states allow it as well as let SNAP be used at restaurants.
The reasoning is that homeless people don't have kitchens.

Although I don't think these people have to show proof of being homeless.
 
Old 12-28-2013, 08:48 AM
 
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No matter how hard you try Appalachian, you can not defend abuse and the American people are sick of the abuse coming from people who take advantage of the tax payer. This means people on welfare and big government and their cronies.

People on welfare don't have skin in the game, they don't pay taxes yet they can vote. Their votes are bought by politicians to help politicians take advantage of the tax payer from all sides.
You must have missed the part that people who work also get food stamps. So yes people who work are also paying taxes towards food stamps and TANF and medicaid etc. There is abuse absolutely. But that doesn't mean slash it for everyone. I saw 1 website that gives many examples on how to make it more efficient and also we need to start moving towards large scale worker programs and weaned off welfare. There is more that goes into this than just people being lazy or something...its government and corporations hand in hand making sure keeping people poor by paying low wages which in return keeps people on welfare and in return those people vote for the politicians that make sure they keep welfare and those politicians in turn make sure the corporations get tax breaks and bail outs and that those pesky workers unions don't get anywhere close to getting livable wages for their workers. That would just mess up their little corrupt system they got going.
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28% is not large by any means.
That means 72% are NOT working.
That was one link,try the other one.
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