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Per the OP - it's a false dilemma premised on the lady behind the counter being somehow innately entitled to some amorphous, never-well-defined thing called "living wage" and that if the employer does not pay said living wage, then the taxpayers must.
One must first accept the implied premise that everyone "deserves" (otherwise known as "is born with the natural right to") some standard of living and a wage that provides it, regardless of their individual level of input into their own survival and pursuit of happiness. And to accept that, one must accept that men must either enslave or be enslaved by other men, and that none of us has a choice in the enslavement paradigm.
Sorry, but I reject the premise that someone must be enslaved to the lady behind the counter.
"This is the question the right has to answer. Do you want smaller government with less handouts, or do you want a low minimum wage? Because you cannot have both. If Colonel Sanders isn't going to pay the lady behind the counter enough to live on, then Uncle Sam has to, and I for one am getting a little tired of helping highly profitable companies pay their workers.: ~ Bill Maher
eliminate welfare...and let the states or local set min wage...not the federal government...its a big country...lots of variances in cost of living.....the liberals will never understand one size does NOT fit all
It is more than fair to say that most right-wingers subscribe to the belief that one's economic lot in life is mostly due to effort or lack thereof. You will see that on display in this very thread. Like so many other things, it is not based upon data or statistical analysis, but upon what they feel to be true, what they wish to be true and what they've been taught to believe.
And what many Conservatives have actually done themselves.
Contrary to the opinions of those on the Left, many Conservatives WORKED their way to where they are in life, some of us from very modest beginnings with little help from others or the government.
I myself used to be more left leaning until I realized that relying on others was going to get me exactly no where.
When you pull yourself up from nothing, you tend to have a less sympathetic view of others who always seem to find a reason why they can't do this or can't do that.
I used to work for minimum wage, but I was damned if I was going to stay there or go on public assistance.
"This is the question the right has to answer. Do you want smaller government with less handouts, or do you want a low minimum wage? Because you cannot have both. If Colonel Sanders isn't going to pay the lady behind the counter enough to live on, then Uncle Sam has to, and I for one am getting a little tired of helping highly profitable companies pay their workers.: ~ Bill Maher
I think the government should set minimum annual wage of $500,000 for comedy writers, cable TV cameramen, make-up artists, staff, body guards, and everyone else that is employed by Maher or employed to support his show. Why should the entertainment industry get to define pay scales, that is obviously the federal government's job
"This is the question the right has to answer. Do you want smaller government with less handouts, or do you want a low minimum wage? Because you cannot have both. If Colonel Sanders isn't going to pay the lady behind the counter enough to live on, then Uncle Sam has to, and I for one am getting a little tired of helping highly profitable companies pay their workers.: ~ Bill Maher
The time to think about minimum wages is when you're jerking around in high school. Remember "Scared Straight" when they took those kids to prisons and let the convicts scare the bleep out of them? Maybe it's time to take the preteen slackers on a field trip to minimum wageville and let the older workers tell the kids how they screwed up in school and with whom they hung around and wound up where they are now in life.
So you are assuming all minimum wage earners are ex-convicts.
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WTH? I support employers paying a fair wage. That is what this thread is about, remember?
