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I'm a veteran and I fully support cutting the military operating budget if it benefits the country and doesn't affect our ability to defend ourselves.
That's very different from cutting things like veteran benefits or military pensions, those are contractual agreements that should be honored just like any other contract that is honored by the US gov.
I'm a veteran and I fully support cutting the military operating budget if it benefits the country and doesn't affect our ability to defend ourselves.
That's very different from cutting things like veteran benefits or military pensions, those are contractual agreements that should be honored just like any other contract that is honored by the US gov.
I never signed a contract that guaranteed me anything other than what's available for normal active duty soldiers. And even that stuff could change at any time. Nothing more was promised.
Cut the front end military, yes, but cut the veterans? No! You want to lower the cost of the veteran's administration, send less of your son's and daughters to the wars zones.
We already served our time and were promised certain benefits. I personally feel the country owes us those benefits.
All I ask is unfettered access to the promises made to me when I agreed to do the dirty work. The one percent of the nation who serve are insulators. We insulate the ignorant from the cold, hard, nasty, realities of the world. You don't ever have to think about it. My son cares nothing about Vietnam and so it should be. That's why I went.
Everybody walks around and says, "thank you for your service" but with the other side of their mouth, they want to cut the guarantees we were promised when we enlisted.
Ever been to a veteran's hospital? It's full of broken warriors walking the halls, trying to find their next appointment. I am one of them. It took me 7 weeks to recover from the last procedure.
For whatever reason, we do our nation's bidding. The vote to invade Iraq by legislatures was close to unanimous. The people wanted it. Who's gonna do the fighting and carry out the people's mandate? Who's gonna do the dying? Who's gonna come back broken and changed forever? A lot more than people will ever know.
So is that what it is after all? Spend the money on those we send to fight and when they come back, forget about them. We don't need them any more. Hide them from the public eye as it gives us great discomfort. They remind us of money and lives poorly spent and crying mothers. Nobody likes crying mothers and sick puppies. It creates image problems.
We can fund five more weeks in Afghanistan if we defund the veterans administration to the bone and let those old warriors rot.
Let the word get out that you don't honor your commitment to your warriors and soon you're nation won't have any.
I'm a veteran and I fully support cutting the military operating budget if it benefits the country and doesn't affect our ability to defend ourselves.
That's very different from cutting things like veteran benefits or military pensions, those are contractual agreements that should be honored just like any other contract that is honored by the US gov.
I'm a veteran (not a lifer) and I know for a fact that we could EASILY defend our nation and its interests on 1/1,000,000,000,000 of the current amount spent. A few nuclear weapons on submarines, plus trade sanctions, is enough to stop ANY nation from doing ANYTHING we don't like. As for the ridiculous power projection that sends warships around the world, the pointless foreign wars, and hundreds of thousands of servicemen and women stationed around the world, they accomplish NOTHING other than feeding money to the Military Industrial Complex and inciting terrorism.
Of course, the REAL problem is that despite spending MORE money on our empire military than all the other militaries of the world put together, we don't even try to defend our borders. Immigration restrictions are a joke and illegals have no problem coming here and even signing up for welfare benefits.
As to contractual obligations, they CEASE when you have a bankruptcy or even a legal "change of control." In fact, I know of one $1 billion+ corporate pension fund that was legally stolen by a Robber Baron CEO who orchestrated a faux "change of control" that never actually took place--nullifying the vested pensions of thousands of employees. So while I would agree that military pensions are the LAST things that should be cut in our bloated military budget, they are not untouchable--because our nation IS bankrupt and totally unable to pay the promised retirement benefits of all the government employees (let alone the promised Social Security benefits the Baby Boom ALREADY paid for).
Just to set the tone straight here. The discussion is about cutting VETERAN'S Benefits......Not active military budgets. There's a big difference. Veterans are those that already served, not those currently serving or military budgets, overall. Even nations have to pay to play. The cost of treating those veterans after the fact is the price you pay for the wars you play.
I'm all for cutting the front end of the military budget. We don't need to be in most places we're currently occupying. We don't need a new tank that is 35% better than the earlier model when the earlier model is already 3 times better than the best tank any other nation has.
Absolutely, if they don't want to deal with the domestic enemys that are bankrupting the nation then they ought to be the first to see their pensions gutted. The loud mouth liberals would all be pissing their panties if crap got real and they were being held at gun point by martial law for all the dumb crap they voted in that is costing the nation a fortune and some of the conservatives who are selling us out to forign countries by allowing factories and intellectual property to go to China. The worthless citizens of the USA have not seen stuff get real in their life times other than maybe some of the Vietnam veterans.
I am getting tired of seeing taxes go up to support social programs or people being able to use the courts for every little thing to extract money out of ex spouses, frivolus law suits against legitimate business. I know that the military will sit around and twiddle their thumbs so I wont be sad when their pensions are gone.
I'm a veteran and I fully support cutting the military operating budget if it benefits the country and doesn't affect our ability to defend ourselves.
That's very different from cutting things like veteran benefits or military pensions, those are contractual agreements that should be honored just like any other contract that is honored by the US gov.
Is that the new con meme? Because it's freakin' hilarious, coming from a party that lives and dies by destroying unions and the contracts that they negotiate with employers.
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You are correct. There is a huge difference.
