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Old 11-28-2007, 02:49 PM
 
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It is immaterial what the Israelis think,what matters in the Palestinians overwhelmingly favor the use of terror against civilians....

So the idea they voted in Hamas by accident is doubtful.
It's not immaterial when you're trying to paint the conflict as one of innocent, peaceloving Israelis vs. bloodthirsty, maniacal Arabs. Would you not consider the use of nuclear weapons to be "terror committed against civillians?" Weren't Nagasaki & Hiroshima acts of "terrorism," in a sense?
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:56 PM
 
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How long did all of those take to happen?
It varied, of course. What's your point?
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:00 PM
 
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For how long have the Palestinians had free elections?
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:01 PM
 
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It is immaterial what the Israelis think,what matters in the Palestinians overwhelmingly favor the use of terror against civilians....

So the idea they voted in Hamas by accident is doubtful.
Actually Israeli support for Hamas is quite well documented and reported on as any google search will show.

As to Israel using terror against civilians, we know that Israel would never use human shields like this one.




I'm sure that those reams of photos showing Palestinian civilians being shot are all photo shopped and that everything is because Palestinians are what... blood thirsty savages with no compassion for men, women, and children?



I have no problem with folks pointing out the brutality of Palestinians against Israeli soldiers and citizenry alike, as there is plenty of it, however it is quite unfair to think Israel isn't just as equally responsible for a great many inhumane and brutal acts.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:02 PM
 
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For how long have the Palestinians had free elections?
How long have any Arab countries had free elections?
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:04 PM
 
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That's not relevant to the point you were trying to make.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:09 PM
 
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I think it shows that the Lebanese are damn sick and tired of Hezbollah hding among their homes and businesses. Wouldn't you be?
I would be, but apparently Hezbollah enjoys pretty broad support in Lebanon, including support from a majority of Lebanon's Christian population.

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Old 11-28-2007, 03:21 PM
 
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Actually Israeli support for Hamas is quite well documented and reported on as any google search will show.

As to Israel using terror against civilians, we know that Israel would never use human shields like this one.
It is irresponsible of you to show this sequence of photos, which you know have been questioned for their accuracy and truthfulness.


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/07/bu...=all&position=

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Old 11-28-2007, 03:22 PM
 
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That's not relevant to the point you were trying to make.
Of course it is. You implied that the rest of the region enjoyed suffrage; I pointed out that, with the exception of Israel, such is not the case.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:25 PM
 
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It's not immaterial when you're trying to paint the conflict as one of innocent, peaceloving Israelis vs. bloodthirsty, maniacal Arabs. Would you not consider the use of nuclear weapons to be "terror committed against civillians?" Weren't Nagasaki & Hiroshima acts of "terrorism," in a sense?
It is when discussing the Palestinians feelings regarding suicied bombing civilians.

I would consider the use of nuclear weapons a last resort,as has been doctrine for most western nations.
I don't consider the use of nuclear weapons in WWII terrorism.
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