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Old 01-05-2014, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Bertha’s nemesis: 119-foot steel pipe | Local News | The Seattle Times

Seattle is in the process of a big dig, drilling a tunnel to replace the old viaduct that runs from north of downtown to south of downtown. So far it has been problematic; according to Seattle Times columnist Ron Judd, a NW slug would have lapped progress of the tunnel.
http://seattletimes.com/html/ronjudd...wrap20xml.html

But several weeks ago, progress came to an absolute halt as the high-tech drill was stymied by a 'mystery object.' It turns out that it was a pipe, put in place by (drum roll) the WSDOT several years ago for one of their multitudinous 'studies.' The news was released by WSDOT on Friday afternoon, in time-honored gov't PR fashion. And the normal PR spokesperson was unavailable, and a stutterer was anointed to deliver the news.

This comes in the wake of a clusterf*** re our other major infrastructure project, the new 520 floating bridge. The new bridge was already about 18 times the cost of the original bridge built in 1963, and is running into major cost overruns.
Investigation uncovers widespread leaks on new 520 pontoons | Local & Regional | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News

Blue state blues.
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Old 01-05-2014, 08:44 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Government inefficiency at its finest. Anyone surprised?

And, hey, while we're at it, let's let clusterf*ck government control everyone's access to healthcare! /sarc
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:05 AM
 
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Well, if the slug could dig a 57' diameter tunnel as it moved along, that might be significant. It seems like the contractor screwed up here; the well site was identified in the proposal, but they just assumed the pipe had been removed. They should have verified that. Either that or they assumed that even if it was there, an 8" pipe would present no real obstacle.
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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Well, if the slug could dig a 57' diameter tunnel as it moved along, that might be significant. It seems like the contractor screwed up here; the well site was identified in the proposal, but they just assumed the pipe had been removed. They should have verified that. Either that or they assumed that even if it was there, an 8" pipe would present no real obstacle.
They also made an assumption that if the pipe was there that they would be below it and thought it might have been something buried a long time ago. I think they were discounting the idea that it was the pipe from 11 years ago. For sure nobody knew how deep the pipe was buried. Its in Pioneer Square so now they have to figure out how to get it out. Pioneer Square was of course the setting for the movie Night Strangler with Darrn McGavin.
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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And the OP is outraged about this because? There are lots of obstacles underground that often go unnoticed until they are in the way.

Heck, I remember the complications of the Meier and Frank building in downtown Portland when they started renovating it.
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Worse. It was an endangered 8" pipe. They will probably have to do a study and determine if they can find a new habitat before relocation.
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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Worse. It was an endangered 8" pipe. They will probably have to do a study and determine if they can find a new habitat before relocation.
Hilarious. Too bad some LWNJs might actually follow the plan you've outlined. I wouldn't rule anything out when it comes to the nuts on the left coast.
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I am curious why the OP started this thread here instead of in the Seattle section or the Washington state section because it has nothing to do with politics...the OP knows there is a Seattle section, right?
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:56 AM
 
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And the OP is outraged about this because?
The WSDOT knew about the location of the pipe, and then was somehow surprised later by its existence.
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:57 AM
 
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The WSDOT knew about the location of the pipe, and then was somehow surprised later by its existence.
For some people, any criticism of any government program or conduct is heresy.
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