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Old 01-05-2014, 04:08 PM
 
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They are lying about it. The unemployment rate is being manipulated to make it look better than it is. Check out the labor participation rate, it is at a historic low. This is a very difficult time to get a job. I am a rare Republican (along with Dean Heller R-Nevada) who favors extending unemployment benefits.Obama is right about this one and I rarely ever say that.
Just like they did right before the election. They want to manipulate the unemployment numbers to fit their political agenda then they need to accept the results of telling the American people that Obama saved the day.
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:10 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Just like they did right before the election. They want to manipulate the unemployment numbers to fit their political agenda then they need to accept the results of telling the American people that Obama saved the day.
You mind actually showing how they manipulated the unemployment numbers ???
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:06 PM
 
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The evidence is right in front of you....in fact, it surround us.

Notice the numerous vacant store fronts.

Talk to business owners.....they know what's going on. Overall, they are extremely concerned about the state of the economy, with very few exceptions.

The talking point that the economy is improving is BS. Hence the call for unemployment extensions. Hence the growing number of people in poverty. Hence the number of people on food assistance.

This was all created by government....of both stripes.
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:17 PM
 
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I think its time to wind down extended unemployment and people to look for work hard or go on other programs.
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:09 PM
 
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How is that insane?
Because robbing some people for the benefit of others DOES NOT create any overall improvement.

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If people have money, they can spend it. That means other people get to keep their jobs.
It also means that those who have their money taken can't spend it, can't invest it, can't do what THEY would do with it.

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What is this right wing obsession with the idea that the way to get the economy out of the hole is to cover the hole in a few feet of dirt?
What's with the left's insanity, that robbing peter to give to paul benefits everyone?
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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You mind actually showing how they manipulated the unemployment numbers ???
How about you look through the forum, where it was extensively documented.
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:11 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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How about you look through the forum, where it was extensively documented.
It never was extensively documented.
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:23 PM
 
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Why not?
Because the unemployment number should be the % who want to work but can't find employment. Mixing in those who have no desire to work would distort the figure.
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I didn't ask if you could make up partisan crapola. I asked you to explain how you use the published 7% as a reliable indicator of economic health.
In reflecting, you are right. I was off topic. My apologies.

Though In all honesty, I disagree with every conclusion and perspective you've made in this thread though.

Counting stay at home moms as part of "The Unemployed"???? I mean really?
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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How about... The number is meaningless BS?
The number by itself doesn't mean much.
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