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Old 08-20-2015, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes, I remember the disinformation campaign that preceded the 2003 invasion. All of the fear-mongering that Saddam was working feverishly to produce nukes and how he was secretly plotting to use chem and bio weapons against us. Turns out it was all bs, of course.

Dubya and Chicken Dick Cheney lied us into their oil war in Iraq and everyone on earth knows this.

The liars will never come clean about their true motivations.

I report. You decide.

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Old 08-20-2015, 07:45 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Who here actually served in Iraq?
Me.
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Old 08-20-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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What makes Ron Paul so special?

Here is a list of Congress men and women who actually had some say in the matter who opposed the war:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...f_the_Iraq_War
Many who voted for it. Paul voted against it.
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Old 08-20-2015, 07:48 AM
 
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The War was a cakewalk as we crushed their military very quickly. The Policing & Nation-building was considerably more difficult. It is incorrect to merge these two into one.
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Old 08-20-2015, 07:56 AM
 
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The War was a cakewalk as we crushed their military very quickly. The Policing & Nation-building was considerably more difficult. It is incorrect to merge these two into one.
Not really. If it was simply a matter of beating the military the fighting would have ended long ago.
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:04 AM
 
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Not really. If it was simply a matter of beating the military the fighting would have ended long ago.
But it was in the process of policing & nation-building that the fighting began again. There was about a 3 to 6 month lull before the insurgency began and we should have been out of there by then. At that point, it wasn't a war between nations - it was a civil war between Sunni & Shia and the US tried to play policeman.
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:06 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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But it was in the process of policing & nation-building that the fighting began again. There was about a 3 to 6 month lull before the insurgency began and we should have been out of there by then. At that point, it wasn't a war between nations - it was a civil war between Sunni & Shia and the US tried to play policeman.

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Old 08-20-2015, 08:16 AM
 
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All the 2007 "surge" accomplished was to allow GWB to leave office without a military defeat on his record. For that purpose, it worked.

Though of course, the defeat was deferred, not averted.
In reference to your post and the title in the OP "Remember the 'cakewalk' that Iraq was supposed to be"

Iraq was a cake walk, we defeated Saddam's military in short order, with great success. It was the nation building after the victory that Bush took a long time in overcoming, and Obama later tossed any and all gains we made into the trash bin.

I suppose the left would have loved it if Bush had done what Obama did in Libya, attack Iraq without congressional approval, destroyed Saddam's military, dissolved the Iraqi government, and then just walked away.
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:23 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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In reference to your post and the title in the OP "Remember the 'cakewalk' that Iraq was supposed to be"

Iraq was a cake walk, we defeated Saddam's military in short order, with great success. It was the nation building after the victory that Bush took a long time in overcoming, and Obama later tossed any and all gains we made into the trash bin.

I suppose the left would have loved it if Bush had done what Obama did in Libya, attack Iraq without congressional approval, destroyed Saddam's military, dissolved the Iraqi government, and then just walked away.

I would have loved it if Bush had lived up to his pre-election statement that he didn't believe in using the military for nation building and not made such an ill-conceived attempt at it.
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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But it was in the process of policing & nation-building that the fighting began again. There was about a 3 to 6 month lull before the insurgency began and we should have been out of there by then. At that point, it wasn't a war between nations - it was a civil war between Sunni & Shia and the US tried to play policeman.
So what would have been the point? To get rid of the one person able to maintain relative peace? As bad as Iraq was compared to some other countries, it's far worse today.
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