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Old 01-07-2014, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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"Venture capitalist Tim Draper of Silicon Valley has filed paperwork for a November ballot measure that would divide California into six states, calling the Golden State as presently constituted 'too big and bloated.' Mr. Draper’s proposed six states are called, from north to south: Jefferson, North California, Silicon Valley, Central California, West California, and South California. His money will be needed: Proponents need to collect 1 million signatures just to get the idea on the ballot this fall. If the six-state initiative passes in California, residents would have three years to discuss whether the proposed borders make sense for them."

BREAK UP: Will California splinter into 6 states? Voters, Congress could soon decide - Washington Times

Good idea or bad idea? Who would benefit? Who would lose? Is it do-able? Would the feds interfere? (Consider that President Obama would be out of office if this actually happened so don't make his administration a reason for liking/not liking it.) Tell us if you are from California when answering.
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:42 AM
 
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Dems will oppose because they want all the electoral votes.
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:49 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Dems will oppose because they want all the electoral votes.
Just one more reason to eliminate the electoral college and go to one man, one vote.
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:51 AM
 
Location: texas
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"Venture capitalist Tim Draper of Silicon Valley has filed paperwork for a November ballot measure that would divide California into six states, calling the Golden State as presently constituted 'too big and bloated.' Mr. Draper’s proposed six states are called, from north to south: Jefferson, North California, Silicon Valley, Central California, West California, and South California. His money will be needed: Proponents need to collect 1 million signatures just to get the idea on the ballot this fall. If the six-state initiative passes in California, residents would have three years to discuss whether the proposed borders make sense for them."

BREAK UP: Will California splinter into 6 states? Voters, Congress could soon decide - Washington Times

Good idea or bad idea? Who would benefit? Who would lose? Is it do-able? Would the feds interfere? (Consider that President Obama would be out of office if this actually happened so don't make his administration a reason for liking/not liking it.) Tell us if you are from California when answering.
A non-binding referendum is meaningless.
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:54 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I lived in California for a time period. I do think California is way too large physically, but more importantly the needs of certain areas are totally ignored. However, I think 6 is too many, they should just divide into three states.

What he is proposing:



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Old 01-07-2014, 07:55 AM
 
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It'll never happen. At least not in this lifetime.
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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If that's what CA wants, more power to them. A state that large cannot efficiently address the wants and needs of its constituents. Six is probably too much though.
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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Haaar; Nueva Jalisco, Nueva Chihuahua, Nueva Sonora, ............!
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:32 AM
 
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Okay, a couple people want Cali to break up...I don't see why their opinions should have any more weight than the voters in Cali.

Let them try and get the signatures, and if they get them put it on the ballot.

Other states are around that large, why shouldn't they be broken up as well? Is there a limit now to how big states can get?
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:44 AM
 
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I am a California resident. Wouldn't bother me in the least if we were broken up into two states. Liberal California and Conservative California. I'd be living in the conservative one even though it would be the smallest of the two states due to most of California being the land of the fruits and nuts.
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