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Old 01-17-2014, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Originally Posted by uggabugga View Post
WTF does monsanto have to do with this? Good lord
Hadn't you heard Monsanto, the CDC, and "Big Pharma" are all controlled by the NWO.

 
Old 01-17-2014, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by dreamofmonterey View Post
Oh my I didn't know we had Monsanto shills here.

As a surgeon, my brother has seen kids die from vaccinations. google it www.mayoclinic.com
I didn't get any information from your link, so I did a Google search and found nothing about flu vaccine deaths on any reputable website. Surgeons don't generally give vaccines and don't usually have much experience with them.
 
Old 01-17-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Zimbochick View Post
Hadn't you heard Monsanto, the CDC, and "Big Pharma" are all controlled by the NWO.
Monsanto applied, is biological rape. (Forced insertion of genetic data without biological consent)

Same goes for vaccines, but with the added detriments of adjuvants, excipients and toxic metals.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I've read of several cases here in Texas where they had the shot but got sick and ended up in the hospital.
The vaccine is only 60% effective against getting the flu.
Just because you get the shot is no guarantee you won't get the flu.
It's just your chances are better at not getting it…60% chance of not getting it.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 04:56 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Katiana View Post
Well, I ought to not respond at all, as you are questioning my truthfulness. But I will say, the pneumonia one gets as a secondary infection after a case of flu can be bacterial was well as viral. The flu virus does not cause pneumonia. It weakens the immune system and leaves it vulnerable to infection from other microbes.
When the flu (influenza) leads to Pneumonia

From your link:

"Streptococcus pneumoniae or pneumococcal pneumonia is the most common cause of bacterial pneumonia acquired outside of hospitals. The bacteria can multiply and cause serious damage to healthy individual lungs, bloodstream (bacteremia), brain (meningitis) and other parts of the body, especially when the body's defenses are weakened. It is estimated that 175,000 cases of pneumococcal pneumonia occur each year, with a fatality rate of 5-7%, or even much higher among the elderly.5"
I know that.
Your quote still doesn't do anything to prove or disprove the point made.
As I said before, we could go back and forth and back and forth and end up in the same place.
I'm moving on.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Is it safe? How safe? Is it effective? How effective? What are my risks for developing the cancer? What are my risks from dying from the cancer? Are there any other preventative measures I could take to decrease my chances of getting said cancer?
Safe and effective, thoroughly tested.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 07:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider275452 View Post
Safe and effective, thoroughly tested.
I would need to look at all of the details prior to making a decision either way.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
I've read of several cases here in Texas where they had the shot but got sick and ended up in the hospital.
The vaccine is only 60% effective against getting the flu.
Just because you get the shot is no guarantee you won't get the flu.
It's just your chances are better at not getting it…60% chance of not getting it.
The bold is the case EVERY year.

The vaccine effectiveness varies from year to year, and from person to person. It's less effective in the elderly, but still effective in preventing death. Where'd you get your 60% number? I haven't seen any numbers for this year yet. All I've seen is that most of the deaths and even hospitalizations have been in the unimmunized.

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Safe and effective, thoroughly tested.
And no matter how safe, effective, and thorougly tested, the anti-vax people will say it's unsafe, ineffective and untested!
 
Old 01-18-2014, 08:09 AM
 
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And no matter how safe, effective, and thorougly tested, the anti-vax people will say it's unsafe, ineffective and untested!
And no matter how unsafe, un-effective and untested, the vax pushers will say it's safe, effective and tested!
 
Old 01-18-2014, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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And no matter how unsafe, un-effective and untested, the vax pushers will say it's safe, effective and tested!
None of them come out the gate unsafe, INeffective and untested. Some have not worked as well in large populations as the testing seemed to indicate, e.g. Lyme Disease vax (which was an unusual formulation).
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