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I am in favor of legalizing gay marriage, but frankly, there is an enormous difference between killing gay people and "merely" treating them as second-class citizens without ever inflicting any physical pain on them. Obviously both of these things are extremely atrocious, but there is a difference between these two things.
I am in favor of legalizing gay marriage, but frankly, there is an enormous difference between killing gay people and "merely" treating them as second-class citizens without ever inflicting any physical pain on them. Obviously both of these things are extremely atrocious, but there is a difference between these two things.
True, but it's not as if the U.S. has always been above physically abusing, torturing and/or killing those that were different from them. Slavery was an actual thing, after all. I guess we should be patient and give the African nations a chance to learn how to treat their gays like second-class citizens.
True, but it's not as if the U.S. has always been above physically abusing, torturing and/or killing those that were different from them. Slavery was an actual thing, after all. I guess we should be patient and give the African nations a chance to learn how to treat their gays like second-class citizens.
The U.S. has not been abusive, some of the people in charge have been abusive.
Have you looked up how Iran deals with gays?
True, but it's not as if the U.S. has always been above physically abusing, torturing and/or killing those that were different from them. Slavery was an actual thing, after all. I guess we should be patient and give the African nations a chance to learn how to treat their gays like second-class citizens.
Slavery was an actual thing - an actual thing that started in Africa. It's also an actual thing that still exists in both Africa and the Middle East. Your comparison doesn't hold water.
Can I just say that the people who think America is some amazing country need to leave Wonder Land and look at the real world. This country is not doing well.
Economically, we're doing alright, but China's moving up. And of course the debt problem that know one is brave enough to take on. We're not leading the world in science or innovation. I mean, we have people who actively fight evolution being taught in schools.
Our social policy is behind. Homosexuals are starting to become more accepted, but many people still view them poorly. Hispanics (which is an obnoxiously general term) and Muslims also seem to have a bad reputation, but at least it's still technically illegal to discriminate against them. And of course, we have self interested politicians spewing something about 'Christian values' which they clearly don't possess, unless Jesus said ladder climb for power, but that doesn't sound like him.
We pretend we're some moral happy land, despite having the highest incarceration rate of an county on Earth. We spend more on war than any country on Earth, in fact, one the list of countries that spend the most, we spend more than the next 25 or so combined. Most of those countries are our allies.
Politics is a mess. Compromise is effectively dead, and for whatever reason, people have starting views it as 'you are either liberal or conservative.' No middle ground apparently. Both sides refuse to listen to each other. Republicans are homophobes and racists and Democrats are socialists and lazy, apparently.
Can I also address that social security is not viewed as socialism, but welfare is. How does that logic pan out? I mean, I don't support welfare, but that's because it's clearly not working, as we have unbearably high income inequality when compared to other first world democracies, and things that don't work should be replaced.
This country is run by self interested politicians who care not for public service, but for gaining more power and money (they go hand in hand really). The few that do care rarely make it very far. Our voters are horribly uninformed and media is painfully biased. Fox news makes fun of Obama, MSNBC makes fun of Fox News, CNN's doing who cares what, and the BBC is reporting on US drone strikes in the Middle East.
This country could have been great. Our constitution is of the best in the world, yet we've backfired. And don't pretend just one party breaks the constitution. Banning guns might be an unconstitutional liberal movement, but 'enhanced interrogation' was beautifully defended by a republican presidency. This country has let itself down and if we're going to fix it, we can't keep holding onto American elitism.
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