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Old 01-07-2014, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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When people stop using science to fulfill an agenda is when science can exist on its own merits... Take money out of science and you will have facts... I wonder what people who push global warming want? Oh yeah, money...
Yes. Follow the money. The AGW alarmists know quite well who butters their bread.
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:25 PM
 
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If you can't understand the politics of money... Then you are the best kind of liberal that they love...
Well, it didn't take long for this thread to turn into the sludge found on the rest of them.
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Well, it didn't take long for this thread to turn into the sludge found on the rest of them.
But if Hitler....

IN B4 U!
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Right. That's how science works, by definition. What you really mean to say is: "new evidence has dispelled consensus." Like when Galileo offered that the earth revolved around the sun.
Actually, that was Copernicus in 1543. Galileo came a century later.
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:30 PM
 
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Actually, that was Copernicus in 1543. Galileo came a century later.
I stand corrected. Galileo was the guy who infuriated the church due to heliocentrism.
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Well, it didn't take long for this thread to turn into the sludge found on the rest of them.
What did you expect?

Anthropological Global Warming has as much to do with science as Creationism. One is politics pretending to be science, the other is religion pretending to be science. In both cases neither involve science, and both require a belief.
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:34 PM
 
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What did you expect?

Anthropological Global Warming has as much to do with science as Creationism. One is politics pretending to be science, the other is religion pretending to be science. In both cases neither involve science, and both require a belief.
I don't know what I expected, especially being that the thread topic has nothing to do with global warming, and certainly nothing to do with page after page of the hyperventilating garbage on global warming threads. Oh well. Somebody had to ruin it.
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I stand corrected. Galileo was the guy who infuriated the church due to heliocentrism.
Indeed, and he was the first to make Copernicus' work public knowledge and put it to the test through direct observation. Galileo observed the different phases of Venus, which confirmed that it orbited the sun, as Copernicus predicted.

Copernicus was afraid of what the church would do to him, so he only published his work "De revolutionibus orbium coelestium" (On the Revolutions of the Celestial Spheres) just before his death.
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:38 PM
 
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Some people in the thread went there.

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Old 01-07-2014, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I don't know what I expected, especially being that the thread topic has nothing to do with global warming, and certainly nothing to do with page after page of the hyperventilating garbage on global warming threads. Oh well. Somebody had to ruin it.
This thread has to do with science. The OP made an erroneous assumption, that religion and politics have nothing to do with science.

I pointed out that sometimes both religion and politics can be couched as science, and provided two examples: Creationism is religion pretending to be science, and Anthropological Global Warming is politics pretending to be science.
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