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The word bigot is also a buzz word used quite often by the left and the gay community. So much for tolerance.
It's either "bigot" or "idiot."
Choose one.
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Originally Posted by Taratova
That word tolerance is also used to gain sympathy for the rights.. and will again be used to advance that which is unnatural in society.
Lady, the crap you spout on this board is not natural. YOU are "not normal" and in fact, given a nationwide platform to espouse your whack job beliefs, I would venture the vast majority of the nation would find you out of line with mainstream beliefs and beyond in your rhetoric what "normal" people believe.
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God's word stands and will forever . Homosexuality is a sin against themself and against nature and against their own bodies.
Blah blah blah. You and 10000 other sects believe you hold the truth. 9999 of you are wrong.
I trust an independent medical study like I posted over Catholic Culture, Family Research Council, both who HAVE obvious agenda's. The NCBI has only posted that so called study. They also post so called studies by the Family Research Institute, another anti-gay group.
I'm unfamiliar with the NCBI, but it seems that if they post unscientific clap trap from these groups,I don't have any faith in them.
I knew you would say this. Denial helps to cloak the cognitive dissonance I'm sure you're feeling, but it doesn't change facts.
It doesn't matter what the judge's opinion was. The POINT is that this is the argument and why it hasn't been fully decided, across the board, for the country.
The argument will have to be won against the religious perspective and then ruled on. I'm not saying that won't happen as it already has in 17 states, thus far. I'm just saying, even in Utah, that is the perspective that has been upheld. The law doesn't specify, it has been implied without spelling it out. That is being challenged, as it's still the argument for many.
And yet, you still haven't quoted ONE state law that requires reproduction, or the ability to reproduce to get married.
Come on, it should be easy to prove your point. The laws are all out there to search.
How about this one from the supreme court.
Turner v safley.
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Turner v.
Safley, 482 U.S. 78, 95-96 (1987). While the Supreme Court noted that some inmates might one
day be able to consummate their marriages when they were released, the Court found that marriage was important irrespective of its relationship to procreation because it was an
expression of emotional support and public commitment, it was spiritually significant, and it
provided access to important legal and government benefits
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The State argues that the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage is justified based
on an interest in promoting responsible procreation within marriage. According to the State,
“[t]raditional marriage with its accompanying governmental benefits provides an incentive for
opposite-sex couples to commit together to form [] a stable family in which their planned, and
especially unplanned, biological children may be raised.”
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As a result, any relationship between Amendment 3 and the State’s interest in responsible
procreation “is so attenuated as to render the distinction arbitrary or irrational.” City of Cleburne,
473 U.S. at 446; see also Perry v. Schwarzenegger, 704 F. Supp. 2d 921, 972 (N.D. Cal. 2010)
(“Permitting same-sex couples to marry will not affect the number of opposite-sex couples who
marry, divorce, cohabit, have children outside of marriage or otherwise affect the stability of
opposite-sex marriage.”). Accordingly, the court finds no rational connection between
Amendment 3 and the state’s interest in encouraging its citizens to engage in responsible
"THE FACTS
According to the American Psychological Association, "homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are." Gregory Herek, a professor at the University of California, Davis, who is one of the nation's leading researchers on prejudice against sexual minorities, reviewed a series of studies and found no evidence that gay men molest children at higher rates than heterosexual men."
They mention the so called Family Research Institute by the way. Only idiots can't separate propaganda with facts.
Oh the APA, the same group who included homosexuality in the DSM not too long ago?
BTW, they are filled with liberal hacks and secular progressives now more than ever. It's no wonder you go to them to validate your faulty beliefs, they justify everything now.
I trust an independent medical study like I posted over Catholic Culture, Family Research Council, both who HAVE obvious agenda's. The NCBI has only posted that so called study. They also post so called studies by the Family Research Institute, another anti-gay group.
I'm unfamiliar with the NCBI, but it seems that if they post unscientific clap trap from these groups, I don't have any faith in them.
The FRC is about truth, not hate. Here's some more truth from their pamphlet entitled "Homosexual Behavior and Pedophilia":
"One of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the 'prophets' of a new sexual order."
However, despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains to be a connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners.
What a worthless post.
First of all, there is no "gay lifestyle." And if there was, nothing about it would correlate or lead to pedophilia, which is not an adult orientation.
The fact is that for both molesters of boys, there is actually usually no corresponding desire for MEN with developed secondary sex characteristics. Likewise with the majority of molesters of girls having no correlating desire for women.
A good breakdown of a number of studies on the subject NOT promoted by special interest of Catholic research groups:
Oh the APA, the same group who included homosexuality in the DSM not too long ago?
Yes. That APA. Who moved past lobotomies and shock treatment (things that were ALSO prevalent when homosexuality was in the DSM) because the science did not support it. That's what happens when people are wrong about things in academia. They move on.
The study of psychology has evolved. Even if you and religious folks have not.
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BTW, they are filled with liberal hacks and secular progressives now more than ever. It's no wonder you go to them to validate your faulty beliefs, they justify everything now.
Is it a burden to view the world in which "liberals" hide under beds and behind trees, ready to spook you and destroy civilization?
There MUST be something in the DSM about this kind of shallow, myopic conservative worldview.
Yes. That APA. Who moved past lobotomies and shock treatment (things that were ALSO prevalent when homosexuality was in the DSM) because the science did not support it. That's what happens when people are wrong about things in academia. They move on.
The study of psychology has evolved. Even if you and religious folks have not.
Is it a burden to view the world in which "liberals" hide under beds and behind trees, ready to spook you and destroy civilization?
There MUST be something in the DSM about this kind of shallow, myopic conservative worldview.
Because Daylux believes that the end goal of gay activists is to convert everyone so that the human race dies out. Ya, dumb.
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