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Despite the spouse and parents wanting their brain dead daughter taken off life support the state of Texas refuses to recognize their personal decision because she was 14 weeks pregnant. If the women were alive she could have an abortion but now that shes not the decision lies with the great state of Texas.
Rick Perry has his share of faults, but King of Texas is not one of them.
Texans have this very quaint idea that Laws of the State must be followed.
Wouldn't it be great if the Federal Government also followed the Federal Laws - alas, The King of the USA doesn't do that.
That's the real issue in this sad case. Texas (and 30 other States) have a Law that says that life support can't be withheld from a Pregnant woman. Granted, the Texas Law is among the most strict (with 11 others) - but even IF it were among the most lenient - life support still couldn't be withheld. The lenient State Laws all require that the Mother must have a specific directive concerning pregnancy - Mrs Munoz doesn't have an End of Life Directive at all. This is all based on her husband's word, not a legal document.
Add to that - it is only a Court/Judge that can do anything about this. Rick Perry simply doesn't have th power to do anything - more than that, he shouldn't have the power to issue personal 'waivers' to State Law. Mr Munoz has not contacted an attorney to our knowledge, he won't even sign a release to the Hospital to discuss the case or her condition. Something a bit fishy about all that.
He certainly has options other than this barrage of 'news' stories - he hasn't taken any of those.
The most recent 'news' stories are about Mrs. Munoz's 'Abortion rights'. This is shaping up to another one of those War on Women platforms.
A variety of Medical and Legal professionals in Texas do think that there is a possibility that the Texas End of Life law may not apply to Mrs Munoz, but they can't say for sure because they don't know exactly what her condition is. Mr Munoz can bring this before a Judge if he wants to do something - but he hasn't done that. Mrs Munoz is now at 20 weeks pregnant - there will be further information at somewhere between 22-24 weeks unless Mr Munoz gets himself to Court.
Once again ...... Mrs Munoz has never written a Medical Directive at all, this is ALL here-say, which usually doesn't stand up well in Court and certainly not good enough to over-turn or ignore a State Law that was passed in 1989 and amended under the Texas sunset laws in 1999. I'm sure it was reviewed again in 2009 for the same reason (Sunset Law review every 10 years).
Absolutely. Especially when the law is applied in a very bad way such as this.
The law was passed by a democrat controlled legislature to deal with this very spicific situation.
If the law is to be removed, it must be removed by either judicial overturn, or by the legislature itself.
Governors and Presidents are not at liberty to ignor the law.
That has generally been considered a crime in America. Liberals have in recent years taken a different approach it seems. Laws are now only laws if liberals like them.
Thank you for sharing with us what liberals really are.
This is the exact situation that Democrats created this law for. If we don't like the law we should change it but for the time being we have to deal with the laws that ignorant Democrats of the past created for us.
I 100% guarantee Perry wouldn't sign an amendment if it came up now to resolve this. Regardless of the original law (which was amended under all Republican control, Dubya and Perry), this is right up his aisle of less government interference in our lives unless of course you are a woman.
I 100% guarantee Perry wouldn't sign an amendment if it came up now to resolve this. Regardless of the original law (which was amended under all Republican control, Dubya and Perry), this is right up his aisle of less government interference in our lives unless of course you are a woman.
So Rick Perry is a bad guy because of something he might do in your hypothetical future?
The law was passed by a democrat controlled legislature to deal with this very spicific situation.
If the law is to be removed, it must be removed by either judicial overturn, or by the legislature itself.
Governors and Presidents are not at liberty to ignor the law.
That has generally been considered a crime in America. Liberals have in recent years taken a different approach it seems. Laws are now only laws if liberals like them.
Thank you for sharing with us what liberals really are.
Actually, the law that applies to pregnant women is the Texas Advance Directive Act, passed by the Republican controlled legislature, Lt. Gov Perry and Governor Bush. http://www.tapm.org/vault/Texas%20Ad...ives%20Act.pdf Section 166.098 at the bottom of 21.
Despite the spouse and parents wanting their brain dead daughter taken off life support the state of Texas refuses to recognize their personal decision because she was 14 weeks pregnant. If the women were alive she could have an abortion but now that shes not the decision lies with the great state of Texas.
Because she wrote a living will explaining exactly what her wishes were in such a situation? Come on, man, try to educate yourself at least a little bit on the topic you're trying to discuss.
Grsz11 let's talk about this Democat created and passed law a little more, where did you go?
Post 26.
If you bothered reading the whole article:
"John Peter Smith Hospital in Fort Worth is pointing to a provision of the Texas Advance Directives Act that reads: “A person may not withdraw or withhold life-sustaining treatment under this subchapter from a pregnant patient."
That law passed in 1999. Even still it isn't appropriate here because the treatments aren't life saving since shes dead.
Despite the spouse and parents wanting their brain dead daughter taken off life support the state of Texas refuses to recognize their personal decision because she was 14 weeks pregnant. If the women were alive she could have an abortion but now that shes not the decision lies with the great state of Texas.
It's not Texas and it's not Perry.
31 other states have similar laws about unborn children.
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