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Bull, if marriage was about protecting the children, then divorce should not be allowed till the children are grown. You think it benefits the child to have one, two maybe three step dads or moms. Real value there for sure, teach them that committments mean squat, do not like your spouse, get a divore and start over with Daddy #2 or #3. Marriage and their rights granted by the federal government has nothing to do with kids. Absolutely nothing. Totally separate set of rights for families with kids, married or not.
So pretty much.... people in general suck at maintaining long term personal relationships. That would be all people, regardless of their private sexual preferences.
It kinds of proves the point that it was never about benefits, or even marriage. It was always about harnessing the long arm of the law to push their agenda.
So pretty much.... people in general suck at maintaining long term personal relationships. That would be all people, regardless of their private sexual preferences.
Some yes, some no.
My mom was married to my dad for 38 years until he died. My little sister has been married 3 times.
I know homosexual couples that have been together for 30+ years. I know homosexual that can't seem to stay with the same person for more that a few years.
Sexual orientation has nothing to do with the ability to commit to another person.
If that is truly someone's fear of being "converted", then perhaps that person could have a few issues and insecurities that they may need to work out themselves. Know what I mean? I have no fear of being "converted", because I KNOW for fact that I CAN'T be!
Some yes, some no.
My mom was married to my dad for 38 years until he died. My little sister has been married 3 times.
I know homosexual couples that have been together for 30+ years. I know homosexual that can't seem to stay with the same person for more that a few years.
Sexual orientation has nothing to do with the ability to commit to another person.
That is what i said. Being in a lesbian relationship does not mean the two are super moms, nor does it mean they are prone to being child abusers. People are people, and if they were all moral, ethical, and worked well with others, we would need a whole bunch fewer laws and regs.
That is what i said. Being in a lesbian relationship does not mean the two are super moms, nor does it mean they are prone to being child abusers. People are people, and if they were all moral, ethical, and worked well with others, we would need a whole bunch fewer laws and regs.
No it means that we are just as capable of marriage and raising children as any other couple. It also means that homosexual are just as worthy of the legal protections that marriage provides. Yes, people are people, but SOME people want to deny OTHER people equal protections for completely nonsensical reasons.
As long as you redefine the purpose and function for why our culture and society demanded government's involvement in marriage.
Really? Show any of those 1049 federal rights that have anything to do with raising children. Show me anywhere on the federal marriage certificate and license that one must have children or that children are a required outcome of the marriage. Government got involved in marriage because of the money and the taxes. And we gays pay taxes too and we have money too. Fine a legitimate reason to deny us marriage or why the government should only promote heterosexual marriage only and not both.
And if your state had civil unions for same sex couples you would have property and inheritance protections. But instead of striving for something most people would agree to, you bang heads with people by demanding we all must equate same sex couples with traditional marriage.
We did try for civil unions and domestic partnerships and in those states that forbid or banned same sex marriage, like Florida, they also banned any relationship protections or benefits that even remotely resembles civil marriage. So, you see, it is you all that do your damnedest to prevent us from having those civil unions that you then say we should be happy with intstead.
We did try for civil unions and domestic partnerships and in those states that forbid or banned same sex marriage, like Florida, they also banned any relationship protections or benefits that even remotely resembles civil marriage. So, you see, it is you all that do your damnedest to prevent us from having those civil unions that you then say we should be happy with intstead.
Isn't it funny? They deny us ANY legal recognition, THEN when they start losing on the marriage issue, then it is either "how about a civil union" or "get rid of marriage". The poster you responded to said that we should just fight for civil marriage. What do they think we HAVE been fighting for? A big church wedding? I know several churches that would marry me tomorrow if I wanted and that is in BFE Mississippi.
It kinds of proves the point that it was never about benefits, or even marriage. It was always about harnessing the long arm of the law to push their agenda.
That has exactly been what the church has been doing, forcing their beliefs upon everyone through enacting laws. it is the church and its menions that have created this war and are forcing the hand of the government that has reason to recognize all of its tax paying US citizens, not just its straight or christian citizens. We are not a theocracy that enforces religious doctrine. We never will be, for religion does not equate equality, religion is tyranny and subjugation.
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I have no fear of being "converted", because I KNOW for fact that I CAN'T be!
