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You are SURROUNDED by the evidence ... everywhere you look (save perhaps the mirror).
If you don't see it, nobody can show it to you. If you look at Mt Rushmore, and think, what a wonderous coincidence that all of the wind and rain caused the rock to errode in a shape that looks like faces ... nobody can fix what afflicts you.
Anyone who can look at the amazing interconnectedness of life... worms aerating the earth, animals fertilizing the soil, bees polinating the plants, plants exchanging their oxygen, for our CO2 ... the oceasn plankton feeding the the small which then feeds the larger ... the ocean currents regulating the climate ... the air currents creating storms which redistribute the water on land, the sun rising and setting ... this incredible symphony of life ... this magnificent chorus of cause and effect ..the symbiotic and synergistic cooperation between billions of creatures great and small, the land, the air, the seas ...
When you look out at this landscape of life, and you still think ... "Plan? ... What plan? I don't see no stinking plan" ....
There is no hope for you. You're done. Stop the music, the party is over for you.
I think HistorianDude meant there was nothing else claiming to be "scientific theories" of "Intelligent Design". Anything else is just religious teleological arguments for the existence of "God".
Not that ID is actually a scientific theory- it just claims to be one by masquerading sciency sounding ideas like "irreducible complexity" as a thin veneer on top of Creationism. Irreducible complexity has already been debunked as false. eg bacteria flagellum argument.
The whole "Look! It's awesome and complex and there are patterns! Therefore there must be a designer!" idea is just an argument from awe/incredulity/ignorance. They themselves can't find a natural explanation so they assume others haven't.
"The argument from incredulity creates a god of the gaps. Gods were responsible for lightning until we determined natural causes for lightning, for infectious diseases until we found bacteria and viruses, for mental illness until we found biochemical causes for them. God is confined only to those parts of the universe we do not know about, and that keeps shrinking." Same thing for an 'intelligent designer"
Your hatred of religion is rather pathological, and such bias brings your imotives and integrity into serious question.
This irrational hatred of God is a common trait among EVIL-lutionists, which explains how you can so casually overlook the glarring contradictions, and absense of common sense required to embrace Darwinian dogma. It's not so much evolution you embrace, but the concept of God you cannot stand.
Such irrational biases and agendas are far more the driving force here .. actual evidence isn't very important to you.
Well, you're onto us. I see nothing gets by you.
Yes, we hate God. We also hate Spiderman, leprechauns, Wonder Woman, Bigfoot, and the Loch Ness Monster. We despise ogres that live under bridges and mermaids. Orcs and elves make our blood boil.
And don't even get me started on the Golem.
Modern presentations on evolution may be met with little objection—for example, consider the PBS video animation depicting a smooth evolutionary transformation from simple ancestral to present complex eye (such as found in humans or the octopus). After all doesn't that depict fact? But if there is no clear explanation on how certain presumed transformations arose, then we are left—along with Darwin himself—with unresolved queries and doubt:
Even Charles Darwin thought his own theory was "grievously hypothetical" and gave emotional content to his doubts when he said, "The eye to this day gives me a cold shudder." To think the eye had evolved by natural
selection, Darwin said, "seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest possible degree." But he thought of the same about something as simple as a peacock's feather, which, he said, "makes me sick. " Of course, anyone who has knowledge of the intricacies of the human eye and other living structures immediately realizes the problem Darwin sensed. How could an organ of such an intricate magnificence ever have a originated via random chance?
To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree. When it was first said that the sun stood still and the world turned round, the common sense of mankind declared the doctrine false; but the old saying of Vox populi, vox Dei, as every philosopher knows, cannot be trusted in science. Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case; and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory. How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself originated; but I may remark that, as some of the lowest organisms in which nerves cannot be detected, are capable of perceiving light, it does not seem impossible that certain sensitive elements in their sarcode should become aggregated and developed into nerves, endowed with this special sensibility. Charles Darwin, On the Origin of Species, 6th Edition
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The people at Windowview.org, whatever that is, are either being negligent or dishonest. If you're going to quote Darwin, you should cite Darwin. If you want to know what Darwin wrote, I don't think a creationist website is the place to go.
You are SURROUNDED by the evidence ... everywhere you look (save perhaps the mirror).
If you don't see it, nobody can show it to you. If you look at Mt Rushmore, and think, what a wonderous coincidence that all of the wind and rain caused the rock to errode in a shape that looks like faces ... nobody can fix what afflicts you.
Well there's your problem, you are scientifically illiterate. Inorganic materials (aka rocks) don't have genetic information to pass to their offspring.
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Anyone who can look at the amazing interconnectedness of life... worms aerating the earth, animals fertilizing the soil, bees polinating the plants, plants exchanging their oxygen, for our CO2 ... the oceasn plankton feeding the the small which then feeds the larger ... the ocean currents regulating the climate ... the air currents creating storms which redistribute the water on land, the sun rising and setting ... this incredible symphony of life ... this magnificent chorus of cause and effect ..the symbiotic and synergistic cooperation between billions of creatures great and small, the land, the air, the seas ...
When you look out at this landscape of life, and you still think ... "Plan? ... What plan? I don't see no stinking plan" ....
There is no hope for you. You're done. Stop the music, the party is over for you.
And only an "intelligent designer" could set that in motion?
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