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Old 01-14-2014, 05:00 AM
 
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Again, why the heck are Creationists/IDers always banging on about Darwin anyway?

Since Darwin's time, the Theory of Evolution has been rigorously debated and tested for 150 years and nothing has disproved it. Many scientific advances in fields like molecular biology, genetics, physics, geology and chemistry have supported, refined, and expanded the Theory of Evolution far beyond anything Darwin could have dreamed.

 
Old 01-14-2014, 05:02 AM
 
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"I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science." Charles Darwin

I'll let Mr. Darwin speak for himself. He obviously didn't read his own book.

Have you?

Perhaps you can expound on the Cambrian Explosion for us.
More deliberately deceptive quote-mining and lies? Are no tactics too dirty or deceitful for you?

And finally something Darwin did say, but which is often quoted out of context to suggest that Darwin himself had doubts about the validity of his theories:

‘I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science.’

Letter to Asa Gray, 18 June [1857] (see the letter)

This has to be read in the context of the areas that Darwin and Gray had been discussing (and which can be followed closely from the rest of the published correspondence) which was the problem of how to account for species of plants for which there were no, or few, closely related species. Darwin was attempting to come up with a theory to account for this and had speculated that these ‘disjoined species’ would be found to come from genera which had very few species in total. This was not based on a great deal of observation however, hence it appeared to him to be ‘unscientific’. He is not making a general comment on his larger theory of speciation through natural selection.

This is a good example of the sort of selective reading that is fairly common. Caveat lector!
Darwin Correspondence Project » Six things Darwin never said – and one he did


Is Darwin an easy target for you to misrepresent and lie about?

How about you take on the 21st century DNA evidence for evolution?
 
Old 01-14-2014, 05:07 AM
 
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Again, why the heck are Creationists/IDers always banging on about Darwin anyway?

Since Darwin's time, the Theory of Evolution has been rigorously debated and tested for 150 years and nothing has disproved it. Many scientific advances in fields like molecular biology, genetics, physics, geology and chemistry have supported, refined, and expanded the Theory of Evolution far beyond anything Darwin could have dreamed.
There is not one verifiable instance of evolution. Not one. None. Nota.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 05:09 AM
 
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There is not one verifiable instance of evolution. Not one. None. Nota.
Stating your ignorance adamantly does not make something true (and the word you seek is "nada").

In related news, Fossil reveals transitional link from fins to feet - The Washington Post
 
Old 01-14-2014, 05:11 AM
 
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How about you take on the 21st century DNA evidence of evolution?
I have to ask you, since you have such faith in science, which science do you have faith in? Today's? The science of 50 years ago? A hundred years ago? My point is that science is constantly proving itself wrong, and 100 years from now many scientific notions of today will be recognized as patently false.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 05:13 AM
 
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Stating your ignorance adamantly does not make something true (and the word you seek is "nada").

In related news, Fossil reveals transitional link from fins to feet - The Washington Post
At least you haven't cited Piltdown Man as evidence. I prefer "nota", I'm a gringo. I'm curious as to how you have determined that I am ignorant. You know nothing about me except that I am opposed to your belief in evolution. Is everyone that disagrees with you ignorant in your opinion? You know nothing about my station in life, my educational level, my life experiences, yet you call me ignorant. What shall I call you?
 
Old 01-14-2014, 05:20 AM
 
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Can you prove the age of the earth?

Believing that all the wonders of "creation," how perfectly everything in nature and physics works together, all happened by "accident" and that there was no intelligence involved at all, takes more faith than accepting that there is intelligence involved. It actually creates more questions than it answeres, and leads to wrong conclusions.

It is said that there is no such thing as "settled science." All theories are subject to revision. Darwinians have claimed that "evolution" is "settled science." They pursue their field on that basis. They are fools.

I think the wiser path is the assumption of intelligence applied to the creation of all things, and to pursue scientific discovery on that basis.

Too many things just "magically" work together to have happened by accident. Don't you think?

I like to think of the behaviors of solid state electronics, that have made so many of our modern devices possible. Could these physical qualities of various elements just have happened by accident? I don't think so.
Do you think the earth is only 6000 years old too?

The 'wiser path' would be to actually educate yourself about the Theory of Evolution.

Understanding Modern Evolution Facts - Part 1 of 6 (Basic Principles, Phylogenetic Tree of Life)
There are 6 parts to the series.

Not that I think any of you want to learn - as it seems you have an emotional need to believe in magic.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 05:23 AM
 
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There is not one verifiable instance of evolution. Not one. None. Nota.
Better not take antibiotics then.


(Your statement shows that you have no understanding of what evolution is or what the ToE is. I find that astounding in the 21st century)
 
Old 01-14-2014, 05:28 AM
 
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Stating your ignorance adamantly does not make something true (and the word you seek is "nada").

In related news, Fossil reveals transitional link from fins to feet - The Washington Post

Understanding Modern Evolution Facts - Part 2 of 6 (Transitional, Parallel Existence, Sequencing)

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Old 01-14-2014, 05:29 AM
 
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I have to ask you, since you have such faith in science, which science do you have faith in? Today's? The science of 50 years ago? A hundred years ago? My point is that science is constantly proving itself wrong, and 100 years from now many scientific notions of today will be recognized as patently false.
Do you expect science to stop and never seek to learn new things and improve on past and current knowledge?

How strange.
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