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Old 02-13-2014, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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To be fair, this is not evidence that the media was complicit in the attacks, as it was reported that wtc7 was coming down around ground zero, that eventually BBC picked up the story and ran with it. It does, however, make you wonder how police and firefighters guess the building was coming down (disregarded the widely reported explosions).

"Early on, there was concern that 7 World Trade Center might have been both impacted by the collapsing tower and had several severe fires in it and there was a concern that it might collapse. So we instructed that a collapse area -- (Q. A collapse zone?) -- Yeah -- be set up and maintained so that when the expected collapse of 7 happened, we wouldn't have people working in it. There was considerable discussion with Con Ed regarding the substation in that building and the feeders and the oil coolants and so on. And their concern was of the type of fire we might have when it collapsed." - Chief Cruthers

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Chief Hayden: Yeah. There was enough there and we were marking off. There were a lot of damaged apparatus there that were covered. We tried to get searches in those areas. By now, this is going on into the afternoon, and we were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.

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Battalion Chief John Norman later recalls, "At the edge of the south face you could see that it is very heavily damaged." [Firehouse Magazine, 5/02]

Heavy, thick smoke rises near 7 World Trade Center. Smoke is visible from the upper floors of the 47-story building. Firefighters using transits to determine whether there was any movement in the structure were surprised to discover that is was moving. The area was evacuated and the building collapsed later in the afternoon of Sept. 11.

 
Old 02-13-2014, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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To be fair, this is not evidence that the media was complicit in the attacks, as it was reported that wtc7 was coming down around ground zero, that eventually BBC picked up the story and ran with it. It does, however, make you wonder how police and firefighters guess the building was coming down (disregarded the widely reported explosions).
NO, it doesn't. Those alleged WTC engineers that I allegedly know allegedly made the determination, along with the firefighters*, that the building was allegedly not salvageable, would likely collapse, and that efforts to save it should be abandoned.

Then someone let the press know this, and the cameras were trained on the building, on live television, for hours, while the press people kept going back to it and saying it was going to collapse, it was going to collapse, and then finally--it collapsed, on national live television.

You would think that if it was something that the nefarious "They" were going to hide, they wouldn't have given it so much coverage and advance notice and drawn the attention of all the network cameras to it. But maybe that's just me.


*Edit: And Silverstein, the building's owner. Do spare us the "Pull it" story, though, folks.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, New York
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To be fair, this is not evidence that the media was complicit in the attacks, as it was reported that wtc7 was coming down around ground zero, that eventually BBC picked up the story and ran with it. It does, however, make you wonder how police and firefighters guess the building was coming down (disregarded the widely reported explosions).

You think fire experts don't know when a building is going to collapse???
 
Old 02-13-2014, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Can we stay on topic?
That's rich, coming from you.

Do you even know what the topic is? Why haven't you been staying on topic? Or do the rules only apply to everyone else?
 
Old 02-13-2014, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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OBL tape was translated by a DoD agent. Too bad the truth will never be told to honest Americans.
I didn't realize that only DoD agents and terrorists speak Arabic.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Also, it's pretty amazing half the ones towing the line...
It's "toeing", btw.

Just keepin' you on your "toes"!
 
Old 02-13-2014, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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reporters were fed and then reported incorrect info that WTC 7 had already fallen, when the building was still standing. i saw the footage myself...
Well there's the smoking gun, then!

It's not like there was mass confusion, hysteria and a mad rush to be the first to "break" any new news developments or anything that day.

Yep, you've single-handedly solved it!
 
Old 02-13-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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wow the crap just gets deeper....now micro nukes....go figure
Yeah, keep working the pile, man.

Molten Steel & Extreme Temperatures at WTC | 911conspiracyTV Weblog
 
Old 02-13-2014, 01:10 PM
 
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Well there's the smoking gun, then!

It's not like there was mass confusion, hysteria and a mad rush to be the first to "break" any new news developments or anything that day.

Yep, you've single-handedly solved it!
solved it

i'm raising qustions that should be obvious to anyone not consumed by their on swagger!

and reporters stated the building had already fallen, not that it was going to fall! that is a significant difference. and thank goodness there is footage of the actual collapse, the very suspicious collapse i might add...
 
Old 02-13-2014, 01:16 PM
 
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Towin' the lie, Pip Pip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evya-ndD_AY
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