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Old 01-11-2014, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Decriminalization of marijuana might. Probably will. Probably help them win too, regardless of what their party affiliation is. People, real people, are SICK TO DEATH of this fight.
If that were the case, you would be addressing the president as president Paul right now...
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Old 01-11-2014, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Decriminalization of marijuana might. Probably will. Probably help them win too, regardless of what their party affiliation is. People, real people, are SICK TO DEATH of this fight.
3rd party candidates have made it a big part of their agenda. Unfortunately, we operate in a 2 party system. The voters themselves share the blame on that one. Sure, the system was designed around that, but change has to come from within, because the people benefiting from the system as it is sure aren't going to change things up.

I would venture to guess, if a candidate came out in favor of decriminalization, they would take an unusually large chunk of the young adult vote. Better yet, they would bring out a ton of young people who would have otherwise stayed home on election day.

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If that were the case, you would be addressing the president as president Paul right now...
There were plenty of young people who were energized by Ron Paul. Problem is, he scared the establishment, and they wouldn't have any of it. I think the problem is the system. A candidate who spoke about decriminalization or outright legalization would scare the pants off the people living in the states where the primaries are held.
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Old 01-11-2014, 09:55 PM
 
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I don't smoke pot.. Never will. I am in favor of legalization with some stipulations, however all the bloviating about all the benefits of legalization is starting to turn me the other way. It's getting old. Pot just isn't that high on the radar screen for most Americans and going over the top with all the ranting is not going to ingratiate people to jump on board..
Oh really. I think Colorado would disagree with you lol Seriously, it's becoming a major issue now. Why are we throwing people in jail for this. Let's just make it legal and move on.
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:01 PM
 
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I don't smoke pot.. Never will. I am in favor of legalization with some stipulations, however all the bloviating about all the benefits of legalization is starting to turn me the other way. It's getting old. Pot just isn't that high on the radar screen for most Americans and going over the top with all the ranting is not going to ingratiate people to jump on board..

the fact that keeping pot illegal for 76 years has done absolutely no good has merits.. the legalization of pot will create tens of thousands of private sector jobs, clean out tens of thousands from prisons, and create billions in revenue for the states is a big deal.. all the wrong people are getting super wealthy from pot prohibition..
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:02 PM
 
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Oh really. I think Colorado would disagree with you lol Seriously, it's becoming a major issue now. Why are we throwing people in jail for this. Let's just make it legal and move on.
Colorado is not the entire country.. Look, I support the legalization but it's not going to happen on the national level and it will remain a federal offense even in the states that have legalized it. It is a major issue in a few areas of the country. A handful of states, but it hasn't turned the corner to be acceptable by the main stream at this point. It will be years in the future before it is. I agree. I am sick to death of the war on drugs. It was never a war that our government ever had any intention of winning. Our government actually has contributed to the success of the cartels and illegal drug industry as a whole. The federal prohibition on all drugs as well as marijuana isn't going anywhere.
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:03 PM
 
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Oh really. I think Colorado would disagree with you lol Seriously, it's becoming a major issue now. Why are we throwing people in jail for this. Let's just make it legal and move on.

ya if it were not a big deal their wouldn't be hundreds of thousand imprisoned for smoking a plant that is ten times safer than alcohol..
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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the fact that keeping pot illegal for 76 years has done absolutely no good has merits.. the legalization of pot will create tens of thousands of private sector jobs, clean out tens of thousands from prisons, and create billions in revenue for the states is a big deal.. all the wrong people are getting super wealthy from pot prohibition..
I read it the first 15 times you posted it..
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:06 PM
 
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Colorado is not the entire country.. Look, I support the legalization but it's not going to happen on the national level and it will remain a federal offense even in the states that have legalized it. It is a major issue in a few areas of the country. A handful of states, but it hasn't turned the corner to be acceptable by the main stream at this point. It will be years in the future before it is. I agree. I am sick to death of the war on drugs. It was never a war that our government ever had any intention of winning. Our government actually has contributed to the success of the cartels and illegal drug industry as a whole. The federal prohibition on all drugs as well as marijuana isn't going anywhere.
I agree, but someday it will be legal. But until then we need to lay off throwing them in jail.
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:08 PM
 
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Colorado is not the entire country.. Look, I support the legalization but it's not going to happen on the national level and it will remain a federal offense even in the states that have legalized it. It is a major issue in a few areas of the country. A handful of states, but it hasn't turned the corner to be acceptable by the main stream at this point. It will be years in the future before it is. I agree. I am sick to death of the war on drugs. It was never a war that our government ever had any intention of winning. Our government actually has contributed to the success of the cartels and illegal drug industry as a whole. The federal prohibition on all drugs as well as marijuana isn't going anywhere.
I figure within ten years most states will legalize it, just to much money to be made..
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I agree, but someday it will be legal. But until then we need to lay off throwing them in jail.
In most states, it is basically a traffic ticket for minor possession. A fine. Where you end up doing time for it is distribution and sale.
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