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I have not said it causes cannibalism. It is a proven fact that it can trigger mental illness and psychosis. People experiencing psychosis can do very unpredictable things, like the Miami man who cannibalized the face of a homeless man while in marijuana induced psychosis.
These studies have shown a link between marijuana use and psychosis in those with psychotic predispositions. That is not the same as saying "marijuana causes psychosis". That is saying, marijuana aggravates and amplifies the effects of psychosis, or can jump start the disease for those with underline predispositions. People experiencing mental illnesses should avoid drugs like this, as well as alcohol. Guess what... Psychotic people and booze don't go well together either. That doesn't mean we should tell everybody not to drink.
One thing I did find fascinated in nursing school was my mental health classes. Something like 90% of people suffering from psychosis smoke cigarettes. Apparently, drugs in the cigarettes help sooth many of the symptoms, and it's not just the nicotine either. Not related, but I found that interesting.
An important thing to consider is many of those people who display negative effects are not just smoking marijuana. It safe to say a large number of them are using hard drugs, at least occasionally. This is one of the major problems with marijuana prohibition. It forces the user to seek the drug on the black market, where they are exposed to other, much more dangerous and harmful drugs. This is particularly true for young users who can get their hands on anything in HS... And they do. Our #1 goal should be to eliminate the black market demand all together. It's bad news not only for drugs users, but for everyone exposed to the violence in this country, and elsewhere.
Well, the war can't officially be a failed effort until its conclusion. Seeing as how there is no end in sight, I guess we can only call it a stalemate or a blunderous quagmire. Our nation has a prominent history of starting or entering costly wars that are not winnable. This is a prime example. Eventually, we will turn with out tails between our legs, throw down our arms, and pretend it never happened.
I grew up in the 60's and 70's as well
What long term damage would that be?..I'm aware of the damage from cocaine, and especially alcohol, but not marijuana.
Are you also concerned for the children whose parents sit down after work and have a drink and a smoke?.
Do you believe that children of pot smokers are destined to fail in life?
Do you feel pot smokers are irresponsible towards others well being?
I can ASSURE you, that's NOT the case.
Most drug users believe their drug of choice to be a better choice than less preferred drugs, but the choice to use any drug is a bad choice.
A drug does one of two things.
It either makes you feel like more of a winner or less of a loser, but it's all a lie because giving yourself over to drug use means you've already stopped caring which one you really are.
Well, the war can't officially be a failed effort until its conclusion. Seeing as how there is no end in sight, I guess we can only call it a stalemate or a blunderous quagmire. Our nation has a prominent history of starting or entering costly wars that are not winnable. This is a prime example. Eventually, we will turn with out tails between our legs, throw down our arms, and pretend it never happened.
It is a law enforcement effort, and no one ever said it would eradicate drug use completely. It's goal is to keep it under control the best we can. Cocaine use is down 40%, as a result of efforts in S.America so it is doing some good.
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Most drug users believe their drug of choice to be a better choice than less preferred drugs, but the choice to use any drug is a bad choice.
A drug does one of two things.
It either makes you feel like more of a winner or less of a loser, but it's all a lie because giving yourself over to drug use means you've already stopped caring which one you really are.
I sense much win in this one.
Shown? 1 Oz. of not giving a %$#%. (Care, that word was care.) Care in the world.
Most drug users believe their drug of choice to be a better choice than less preferred drugs, but the choice to use any drug is a bad choice.
A drug does one of two things.
It either makes you feel like more of a winner or less of a loser, but it's all a lie because giving yourself over to drug use means you've already stopped caring which one you really are.
I agree with that. And I agree with Dennis Miller who said that America is going to start looking like Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure Part III. LOL!
This is coming from someone who does not smoke pot mind you. Can anyone really name ONE good reason for the continued war on pot? Is this a winnable war when so many Americans, particularly young adults either use the drug, or sympathize with it's users?
I used to feel more strongly about this issue when I was younger. I guess since I entered adulthood, it became a non issue and something I really was indifferent towards. Entering into the workforce, I was far removed from the people who would actually smoke pot in the first place. To a certain extent, it's a matter of out of sight, out of mind.
What reminded me of my youth was, when visiting friends back home around Christmas, the same HS friends who never used the drug are all using it today. These were the "smart" kids, the high performing college grads with engineering degrees, IT degrees, business degrees, etc. So if these types are toking up well into adulthood, shouldn't it be obvious that the war on drugs, or at least pot, is unwinnable? At the very least, could we agree that any benefits are not worth the enormous social, economic and financial implications?
More importantly, as a tax payer, I have to ask... Is MY MONEY being spent wisely? This has nothing to do with conservative vs libs... I consider myself more so on the right. So as a prudent saver who works hard for his money, I find it frustrating to see my tax dollars being squandered for no realized good at all. How long has this "war" gone on? What have we accomplished in that frame of time?
Personally, if the drug was legalized tomorrow, it wouldn't effect my life. I'm old enough to make my own decisions based on evidence and past exposure to the world as it is. I don't need a giant, overreaching sissy nanny government to tell me what I should and should not put in my body. Basically, the sissy nanny state has done no service for me by hampering the floor of narcotics into this nation. Perhaps the government operates with the premise that we are too reckless and stupid to make mature, grown up decisions well into our adult years?
I like my beer, and never in excess. So as long as the booze flows free in America, I have no need to seek further inebriation. But some folks prefer pot, and I don't feel there is anything wrong with that either. After all, who am I to judge? And with that... Who is the government to judge, and who are they to wage this massive, behemoth of a war on millions of otherwise honest and law abiding citizens?
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There isn't a good reason! History has shown that prohibition is an absolute failure that only creates a black market, and potentially criminalizes more Americans.
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I don't have a good reason, but I have a reason it isn't being made legal on a national basis. There is too much money in it for the government. If you legalize pot, you need less federal law enforcement, such as the DEA. The border patrol could be reduced in size and scope. Plus have you ever wondered why some cartels in Mexico flourish and others are destroyed? Ask your government. They pick the winners and losers in this war.
Mike Huckabee will put an end to the madness in CO and WA when he wins the White House.
Finn, you are delusional! Huckabee is NOT going to win the White House! He sure as Hell isn't going to get the votes from people in CO and WA given his stance on cannabis, and considering the people there spoke, and voted for legalization.
Children are children and adults are supposed to protect children. Children don't yet know the consequences of the decisions they make so it's up to adults to keep temptation out of their easy reach. Seriously, who would you blame if your neighbor left his gun out and loaded in his yard and your child hopped the fence and shot himself? Your neighbor for failing to put the gun away or your child for hopping the fence? Who is more culpable? The child who didn't resist something tempting he had easy access to or the adult who gave him easy access?
It's really quite simple! Tell your kids to stay the HELL off of other people's property!
And besides, many kids would not consider taking leaves off of a plant that will continue to grow as stealing. If taking parts of plants is a crime, I've been an criminal since I first picked lilacs off of the neighbor's bush and my kids are really criminals because when they were small we had a rabbit who loved dandelion greens and they'd just grab them from along the fences of neighbor's houses. We're a family of criminals, lol. This is something kids do and don't think anything of. It's up to adults to make sure they are not putting something within the reach of children that can harm them. Kids just don't know it all. That's why we distinguish between kids and adults legally.
You cannot get high from picking leaves off of the plant! At any rate it's up to YOU as a parent to teach your kids not to touch what doesn't belong to you! If my son went and picked a flower out of my neighbor's garden without his permission, my neighbor would be furious! I would also tan his backside if he did something like that!
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