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Old 01-13-2014, 12:57 PM
 
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Wow, I thought liberals gave up that ignorant comparison years ago. Nobody is required to buy auto insurance.
Liberals don't all get these secret memos, or communications, or telepathy that keep everyone dittoing the same thing. It's not like liberals have a Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh to think for them...they do it themselves. You do know "liberals" are not like a single hive mind controlling many different people right? This is not news to you, correct?
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Old 01-13-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Beautiful NNJ
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This is absurd.

Short-term health policies are very likely medically underwritten. So for a young person who is going without insurance because s/he is healthy, but suddenly finds him or herself in need, well, they may be out of luck. No sane insurance company will write a policy for someone who needs testing or treatment right away.

For all the bitching and moaning about young people being forced to buy insurance, well, THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT. Our health insurance situation was skewed wildly out of balance because there weren't enough healthy people being covered. There are catastrophic plans on offer under ACA for young people, and the premiums for those ARE affordable.

It may be unpleasant, and it may not taste good, but it's medicine that this country absolutely needs to take.
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Old 01-13-2014, 01:07 PM
 
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Oh and according to you everyone is gainfully employed healthy and young. Screw everyone else. Yep, that's how liberals see it.
What then to do with the old, unhealthy and unemployed? Allow them to go uninsured? Bankruptcy? Are you saying that personal responsibility has a cost that a lot of people can't afford and that we should have a better system? Are you advocating single payer, because that's what it seems like.
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Old 01-13-2014, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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SWEET! I just found out that I can get health care PLUS dental for $60 a month. And, in 2014, "no more pre-existing conditions" can be turned away.

Suck it, Odeathcare, this is the way I will go.

Oh and to the naysayers, I don't get a refund, so there will be no "penalty" for me to pay. Because remember, it's not a tax...or is it? Which one is it? Have the libs made up their minds yet?
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Old 01-13-2014, 01:17 PM
 
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It takes a special kind of mind to think it's clever to pay a penalty for nothing just to stick it to The Man.
But you support the bill anyways..
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Old 01-13-2014, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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There are catastrophic plans on offer under ACA for young people
There are?

Prove it.

BTW, anything that includes maternity care for men or pediatric services for childless adults can't possibly be considered "catastrophic," so don't waste our time citing any policies which include these things.

I won't be holding my breath waiting for you.
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Old 01-13-2014, 02:02 PM
 
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For yourself only or family?
Just for me. Family can be added. Beautiful part is it can be tailored for specific needs.
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Old 01-13-2014, 02:04 PM
 
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I certainly don't see how young people paying the penalty and getting short term insurance somehow destroys Obamacare. They think if healthy people don't join in the first year (which is 2014 not 2017), but pay the first year fine, it won't support sicker people and the system collapses. It seems to ignore the penalty increases as time goes on, and base everything on a flat first year penalty.

The entire article seems to be "according to their research," that they don't link to or publish and is laughably wrong even at a glance. This has got to be a joke. All this demonstrates is that the evidence and proof don't matter to people who want to believe what they want to believe, confirmation bias.

What this shows is the lazy thinkers, delusional minds, and outright dullards that think up these loopholes and plans. Stick it to Obamacare buy paying the fine and getting crappy short term insurance. I am waiting for these people to "stick it to Obama's love of air" by putting a plastic bag over their head and refusing the breathe it.

If you want to "stick it to the man" by just hurting yourself...do it. I am serious, just do it and quit wasting time and breath by whining like a 12 year old emotionally disturbed child. Work to get as many people as possible to join you as fast as possible. Be sure to eat fried foods, smoke, drink excessively, and do risky things just to show up Obamacare too.
I hurt myself by paying for a maternity plan I obviously don't need. I also don't need contraceptives or abortion needs or any of that other garbage that I never had until the jackass lied and had my plan I liked (remember that?) cancelled.
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Old 01-13-2014, 02:05 PM
 
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Especially since there is a tax payer funded "insurance bailout" written into the Obamacare law so any attempt to sidestep Obamacare can be weeded out and fixed and with each passing year the fine gets heftier and heftier. Yep the American people will eventually be "forced" to buy something they don't want. That's tyranny.
Precisely.
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Old 01-13-2014, 02:07 PM
 
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So health insurance is tyranny, but things like the requirement to buy auto insurance is not?

Oh yeah, Obama didn't impliment auto insurance...so it is okay.
My not buying health insurance hurts no one but my 2 ton hunk of metal can kill. Big difference there slick.
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