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Old 11-28-2007, 03:44 PM
 
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Politicians on both sides of the aisle have "selective" memories, frequently depending on which audience they are addressing.

You would think with the information age and all, politicians would start being a little more careful with what they are saying. You never know when someone just standing around is photographing and recording everything on a cell phone.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:48 PM
 
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Buy it or not, it's still one of the reasons:

Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq

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Old 11-28-2007, 03:50 PM
 
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Doesn't bother me,I am not selling it.

Simply telling the truth and stating the facts.

A littl ehistory on those pot shots...

1991 -- Following the end of DESERT STORM in March, Shiite Muslims in southern Iraq rebel, but are defeated by Iraq's elite Republican Guard. This is followed by a Kurdish insurrection that is also defeated. The United States, Great Britain and France create a safe haven for the Kurds north of the 36th parallel and ban Iraqi planes from the area.
1992 -- In August, the United Nations establishes a no-fly zone along the 32nd parallel after Iraq launches renewed attacks against Shiite Muslims. The United States and its allies begin patrolling the no-fly zone, operations which continue today. In December, the U.S. planes intercept and shoot down an Iraqi MIG-25 that violates the no-fly zone.
1993 -- In January, the United States accuses Saddam Hussein of moving missiles into southern Iraq. Iraq refuses to remove the missiles. Allied planes and ships attack the missile sites and a nuclear facility near Baghdad. In June, following the discovery of a plot to assassinate former President George Bush, U.S. ships fire 24 cruise missiles at intelligence headquarters in Baghdad.
1994 -- Saddam Hussein moves Iraqi troops to the Kuwaiti border. The forces withdraw after the United States deploys a carrier group, warplanes and 54,000 troops to the Persian Gulf region.
1996 -- In August, Saddam Hussein sends forces into northern Iraq and captures city of Irbil, a key city inside the Kurdish haven established above the 36th parallel in 1991. The following month, U.S. ships and airplanes attack military targets in Iraq to punish the Iraqi military and President Clinton extends the southern no-fly zone to just south of Baghdad.
1997 -- In October, a protracted confrontation with Saddam Hussein begins after Iraq accuses U.S. members of the U.N. inspection teams of being spies and expels the majority of U.S. participants. The U.N. Security Council threatens renewed economic sanctions. The confrontation continues into November as Iraq expels the remaining six U.S. inspectors and the United Nations withdraws other inspectors in protest. Inspectors are readmitted after the United States and Great Britain again begin a military build-up in the Gulf. However, later in November, Iraq announces it will not allow inspectors access to sites designated as "palaces and official residences." U.N. officials protest, having long suspected that such sites were being used to conceal possible weapons of mass destruction.
1998 -- The tensions that began in October 1997 continue. In February, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan works out an agreement with Iraq that resumes weapons inspections. In turn, Iraq receives promises the United Nations will consider removing its economic sanctions. Inspections continue into August, when Iraq cuts ties with weapons inspectors, claiming it has seen no U.N. move toward lifting sanctions.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:55 PM
 
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That nice as an aside. It like saying we joined the allies side during world war do because Hitler sank some of our merchant ships. It may have been a reason but it was just something added to the other main charges. (Like WMDs that weren't there.) I was not even close being a real reason to go to war. Nice try at spin though.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:00 PM
 
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Funny thing about those WMDs,they sure were there when Clinton was President....

Perhaps the WMDs had expired and were poured down the sink...
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:02 PM
 
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Congressional Authorization = spin.

Bush Derangement Syndrome.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:26 PM
 
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Not exactly. There was no witch hunt, Paula Jones filed a lawsuit. In his testimony for that suit, Clinton committed perjury. People are sent to jail every day in this country for perjury.
Scooter Libby wasn't as I recall. I believe Bush pardoned him eh?
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:33 PM
 
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From former President Clinton's speech on 12/16/1998:

Never doubt for a second that Clinton was and is a liar....

CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.
Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.
I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.
Six weeks ago, Saddam Hussein announced that he would no longer cooperate with the United Nations weapons inspectors called UNSCOM. They are highly professional experts from dozens of countries. Their job is to oversee the elimination of Iraq's capability to retain, create and use weapons of mass destruction, and to verify that Iraq does not attempt to rebuild that capability.
The inspectors undertook this mission first 7.5 years ago at the end of the Gulf War when Iraq agreed to declare and destroy its arsenal as a condition of the ceasefire.
The international community had good reason to set this requirement. Other countries possess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there is one big difference: He has used them. Not once, but repeatedly. Unleashing chemical weapons against Iranian troops during a decade-long war. Not only against soldiers, but against civilians, firing Scud missiles at the citizens of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Iran. And not only against a foreign enemy, but even against his own people, gassing Kurdish civilians in Northern Iraq.
The international community had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again."

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Old 11-28-2007, 04:40 PM
 
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From former President Clinton's speech on 12/16/1998:
1998>yawn Oh here we go again folks.

Old News.

What about Bush being a liar? Lets talk about current issues.
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Old 11-28-2007, 04:42 PM
 
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1998>yawn Oh here we go again folks.

Old News.

What about Bush being a liar? Lets talk about current issues.
At least you are admitting Clinton is a liar...which IS the topic of this thread.

Was Clinton lying about WMDs then or was Bush feeding him false info from Texas?
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