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The incessant claim that gays should have just settled for the second-class status of civil unions and the insinuation that no one would have opposed it is monumentally ignorant at best, at worst a flat-out lie. Where civil unions have been legalized, they have been opposed. And some of the factor in support for civil unions has always included those who don't like it, but see civil unions as staving off same-sex marriage and so being a 'lesser evil'. In many cases, absent the possibility of same-sex marriage, there simply would not have been sufficient support for civil unions.
At any rate, the subtext of civil unions is "Shut up and quit complaining that you have to sit at the back of the bus - just be happy you're even allowed on the bus!". Some people go to great ends to pretend that their animus towards gays is really just an opposition to the attitude of gays (the word they're looking for is 'uppity', but most of them are smart enough not to go there), but in the end it is still a hostility to gays themselves, not some faux opposition to attitudes or the process.
I hear that too, that we should be happy that they allow us to have rights and not be institutionalized for our deviancy. We keep being marginalized and that is why we have to keep fighting and fighting hard. The harder they fight us having equality, the harder I fight and the louder I get.
People CAN do more than one thing at a time, you know.
That was kind of my point....government is doing exactly that. Just not as benignly as you think. Do you think kids in Syria are afraid of the "boogeyman" or just afraid of us?
You keep believing that the state is behind "team homosexual" though.
That was kind of my point....government is doing exactly that. Just not as benignly as you think. Do you think kids in Syria are afraid of the "boogeyman" or just afraid of us?
You keep believing that the state is behind "team homosexual" though.
What do kids in Syria have to do with anything? And frankly, in what world should we prioritize the needs of others vs. our own citizens?
If "the state" were behind team homosexual, it would be a non-issue, instead of a wedge issue exploited by religious conservatives to remain in power. Kind of the way the Republicans made it an election issue in the early 2000s.
What do kids in Syria have to do with anything? And frankly, in what world should we prioritize the needs of others vs. our own citizens?
If "the state" were behind team homosexual, it would be a non-issue, instead of a wedge issue exploited by religious conservatives to remain in power. Kind of the way the Republicans made it an election issue in the early 2000s.
This country is not, in any way, a Theocracy or a quasi-Theocracy. Even if office was to be assumed by Republicans. You pretty much illustrated it though. It IS a wedge. A very well designed and useful wedge! Not just for Republicans.
It is the law that makes it two adults. Current law does not cover multiple partners, figure out how it would work and initiate a plan to get polygamy legal, but polygamy is not the same as just two. Also, why would two brothers want to marrry or two sisters, or a daughter and father, what is the purpose, they are already related and do not need the protections granted with marriage. You can be in business with as many as you want, no law says you can only operate or be part of one business. You are just shooting in the dark for any reason to be against same sex marriage.
What business is it of yours why they want to marry?
The only requirements used for same-sex marriage is the arbitrary limit of two participants and that they be adults.
Oklahoma's ban on same-sex marriages was struck down as unconstitutional today by the 10th circuit court of appeals. They ruled it violated the equal protection of the U.S. Constitution.
Judges speaking AGAIN for the people!!! You cant tell me that the people of that state are okay with this!!
People don't decide if a law is Constitutional or not, a Judge does. That is their job description, it is why they exist.
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You cant tell me that the people of that state are okay with this!!
