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Old 01-17-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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If the dollar loses its reserve currency status - it will be tough in the good 'ol U S of A.
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Old 01-17-2014, 12:52 PM
 
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Is it the best interest of China to become a super power military and economically? They have the U S to do the military part of policing the world and spending their treasure doing so. Why would China want that role when they have the stupid Americans doing it for them? China or any other country are not that stupid to take that on.
Nobody asked USA to police the world and USA has never done any policing either.

USA is doing everything to protect its national interest. That is all.
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Old 01-17-2014, 12:54 PM
 
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Yesterday during a newscast, I heard China referred to as "The rising super power" and I started to wonder how China as THE super power nation will impact the rest of us.

How do you think things will change as China takes position as the super power nation?

Interestingly, it is us who have made this possible by shipping manufacturing to China and funding its rise. I wonder if we'll regret that decision.
I don't know if China will ever become a superpower. Their modernization has taken a terrible toll on the environment such that their food production has declined significantly every year since 2000 due to lack of clean water. They are also using up their coal reserves at an unprecidented rate and this is coupled with problems in securing enough water for mining. Once more they are likely in a housing bubble and that could be a disaster for their untested, and relatively new financial sector. I wouldn't assume the rise of China is a given.
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Old 01-17-2014, 12:59 PM
 
Location: North America
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What will it be like when China is the super power?.

A lot like it is now.
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Old 01-17-2014, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Nobody asked USA to police the world and USA has never done any policing either.

USA is doing everything to protect its national interest. That is all.
I am aware that the U S will do everything to protect the petro dollar. But we are policing, are we not drone striking in Africa and other countries? Are we not still occupying other countries? sounds like policing to me. Is there a dispute anywhere in the world that the U S does not stick its nose in?
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Old 01-17-2014, 01:05 PM
 
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Old 01-17-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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Well China is not the war monger that the US is so maybe our days of invading countries will come to an end.
One can hope…..

Uhhh... they're banging war drums over the Senkaku islands, which Japan claims. China will inevitably seek revenge for what Japan did to them leading up to WWII. They may not be war mongers now, however they are building their military which means expansion.

Last week:
China has rapidly expanded its military in the past year, and plans to spend aggressively in the hopes of creating a military that can match the country’s growing economic might. Last week, China announced ambitious plans to expand its space program and put a person on the moon in the next five years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/07/wo...rism.html?_r=0

Today:
http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/...r-over-africa/

A Chinese official on Wednesday called on Taipei to join hands with Beijing against Japan on the territorial dispute over the Diaoyutai Islands.
Beijing urges cross-strait ties to dispute Japan's Diaoyutais claim - The China Post

Japan says China raised no objections to the San Francisco deal. And it says that it is only since the 1970s, when the issue of oil resources in the area emerged, that Chinese and Taiwanese authorities began pressing their claims.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11341139

^^^ this dispute has the potential to become a war at a time when Obama is increasing our military presence in the Asia theatre.
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Old 01-17-2014, 01:19 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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I am aware that the U S will do everything to protect the petro dollar. But we are policing, are we not drone striking in Africa and other countries? Are we not still occupying other countries? sounds like policing to me. Is there a dispute anywhere in the world that the U S does not stick its nose in?
YES, we are the police of the world. According to the 2010 military bases report; We have more than 650 bases in nearly 40 countries. Ron Paul claims we have over 900 bases in 130 countries. Consider there are barely 200 countries on the planet.

How can anyone say we're not the world police?
Military mystery: How many bases does the US have around the world, anyway? | Occasional Planet

Just like Germany and Rome, we spreading our military too thin, and seem to be heading down the same path of demise.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:09 PM
 
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China will export a lot of ideologies that are not fully compatible with western values.

For instance, an emphasis on collectivism, some criticism of democracy, social stratification based on mental capability....
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:04 PM
 
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A State is a super-power not because it has nuclear weapons and not because it has a large economy. A State is a super-power because it can push its hegemony on other States anywhere at anytime. In the Modern Era --- let's call that the post-WW II Era -- to be a super-power requires nuclear weapons, a vast military, a powerful economy, and a global currency.

It takes more than harsh words to influence -- push hegemony on -- other States.

It requires the ability to terrorize other States with military threats and/or economic threats.

The Soviet military was defensive, not offensive, and the Ruble was barred from global trading, so it's absurd to suggest the Soviets were a super-power. Likewise, Chinese currency is not global, and neither is their military.
Mircea
Just curious where you're getting those specific qualifiers for being a superpower?
As far as I know, the term came into modern popular usage precisely to describe the United States and the Soviet Union's roles in global politics in the mid 20th century.
I certainly don't see how it's "absurd" to refer to the USSR as having been a super power.
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