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Old 01-19-2014, 07:53 AM
 
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OTOH, I have a friend who took her kids out of Catholic schools when she and her spouse discovered the local public school kids were ahead in certain areas, e.g. math. It's all a very individual basis. The local Catholic high schools, while good, don't offer as many AP courses and such as the larger public high schools.
As I noted earlier, there are many public schools doing a good job.
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Old 01-19-2014, 07:55 AM
 
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I want specifics. What processes does your district use to ensure that children have transportation to and from their schools of choice? Describe it for me.

Here's a scenario:

Anthony, Taye, and Edward are next door neighbors who have enrolled in different middle schools through the voucher program. Anthony has chosen a charter school three miles north (7:50-3:10); Taye has been accepted to a k-8 private school in an adjoining town about ten miles south (8:50-4:10); and Edward has chosen to attend the public middle school in the same town as Taye's private school (7:50-3:10). How does each get to and from school?

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Old 01-19-2014, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Because there is nothing to just pulling up and moving after 3 months.
With vouchers there is no school district. Moving your kid to another school is as simple as driving across town.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:07 AM
 
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With vouchers there is no school district. Moving your kid to another school is as simple as driving across town.
Again, who's doing the driving?

PGHQuest: How many "other" schools out there do you think exists that they need to make special bussing for?

Between public, charter, and private schools, there are dozens within a 5-mile radius of my suburban home. In a large, highly-populated, metro region, there may be several hundred schools in a ten-mile radius.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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As I noted earlier, there are many public schools doing a good job.
yes, the point is to give parents a choice to determine whats "good".

How many public schools in project neighborhoods are failing? Wouldnt it be nice to give parents a choice to send their kids to another school that isnt failing?
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:20 AM
 
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yes, the point is to give parents a choice to determine whats "good".

How many public schools in project neighborhoods are failing? Wouldnt it be nice to give parents a choice to send their kids to another school that isnt failing?
Without safe, reliable transportation for every student regardless of means, the voucher system's promise of "choice" for all is an illusion.

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Old 01-19-2014, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Again, who's doing the driving?

PGHQuest: How many "other" schools out there do you think exists that they need to make special bussing for?

Between public, charter, and private schools, there are dozens within a 5-mile radius of my suburban home. In a large, highly-populated, metro region, there may be several hundred schools in a ten-mile radius.
I used to ride my bike to school. All the way across town. It was the only school in town.

Solves two problems. Obesity and transportation
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:28 AM
 
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Without sage, reliable transportation for every student regardless of means, the voucher system's promise of "choice" for all is an illusion.
Transportation issues are the least of the problems. To suggest people shouldnt be allowed to go to school where they want, is like suggesting you shouldnt be allowed to live, or work, where you want

Are there logistical issues to deal with, or course, but thats such a minor issue that to pretend its an issue that makes vouchers impossible is about as silly as suggesting one school in the OP closing equates to failure for all.

There are already private schools, and even public schools with private partnerships operating, and they do just fine.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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I used to ride my bike to school. All the way across town. It was the only school in town.

Solves two problems. Obesity and transportation
By no means am I opposed to children walking/riding to school. My kids walked to school everyday through elementary school, but it is simply not possible for them to get to and from their middle and high school without being driven. Alternatively, they could take public transportation (light rail), but the cost would be prohibitive to many families. It's pretty pricey, even with a student discount.
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:38 AM
 
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To suggest people shouldnt be allowed to go to school where they want, is like suggesting you shouldnt be allowed to live, or work, where you want.
Please don't misunderstand; I am not opposed to school choice. I am opposed to the widely-held belief that school choice somehow evens the playing field. It does not, and in some ways it even worsens the stratification. Vouchers are an illusion that allow us to think that we're providing a solution to inequalities in educational access, while creating new problems in the process.

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Transportation issues are the least of the problems.
I strongly disagree. Student transportation is not a small issue; it is an enormous issue.

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