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Old 01-24-2014, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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But it's not a mental illness.

Once again righties, science is clearly your enemy. Why don't you start some thread about how Western Civilization's psychiatric professionals are all a bunch of hoaxsters and frauds? I bet the Scientologists would support you.
Science? I have news for you, psychiatrists do not have a handle on this despite what you think, in fact they just changed the name of this condition to Gender Dysmorphia because the lefties didn't like the psychiatric community's original diagnosis that it was a "disorder".

You are just as anti-science as any one else when it doesn't fit your agenda.

BTW,
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Your claim that the gender theory is grounded in actual science is just plain false. It does not matter how often you say it, it will not make it the truth, because there is zero evidence behind the gender theory.

Again : there is no science backing up the theory, it is merely a bizarre hypothesis according to which gender and biological sex are not related. This theory was first articulated by John Money a Neo-Zelander who tested it on a couple of male twins. One was raised as a boy and the other as a girl. His experiment ended in tragedy when both twins committed suicide once they reached adulthood.

One can be made to believe they are of the opposite gender. It does not make it real.

According to you guys, a male athlete who becomes a woman should be allowed to fight women on a ring (look up MMA fighter Fallon Fox ) .

According to you guys, a male who becomes a woman and is still attracted to women is now a lesbian.

This whole thing is just absurd.
Gender theory? And gender theory not being grounded in science? What on earth are you talking about?
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:06 PM
 
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So, I read that first one. I am not saying there is no such thing as gender identify disorder, clearly it exists. What I am saying is that changing genitalia isn't going to fix the problem. You can't prove that he was born in the wrong body.
Of course he can't. No one can actually prove that. All they can do is speculate.
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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Gender theory? And gender theory not being grounded in science? What on earth are you talking about?
If you have a case make it. You have to prove your views if you want the world to follow your twisted opinions.
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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If you have a case make it. You have to prove your views if you want the world to follow your twisted opinions.
My twisted opinions?
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:12 PM
 
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You are 100 prcent right. There is a reason they call it gender identity disorder. Homosexuality should be called same sex attraction disorder as well.

The parents failed to provide adequate guidance and are responsible for this disaster.
You are not a medical specialist. What makes you think you know what's best for this child? Would you stake a child's life on your non-medical uninformed opinion?
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:13 PM
 
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Your claim that the gender theory is grounded in actual science is just plain false. It does not matter how often you say it, it will not make it the truth, because there is zero evidence behind the gender theory.

Again : there is no science backing up the theory, it is merely a bizarre hypothesis according to which gender and biological sex are not related. This theory was first articulated by John Money a Neo-Zelander who tested it on a couple of male twins. One was raised as a boy and the other as a girl. His experiment ended in tragedy when both twins committed suicide once they reached adulthood.

One can be made to believe they are of the opposite gender. It does not make it real.

According to you guys, a male athlete who becomes a woman should be allowed to fight women on a ring (look up MMA fighter Fallon Fox ) .

According to you guys, a male who becomes a woman and is still attracted to women is now a lesbian.

This whole thing is just absurd.
Again, science disagrees with you. Medical experts disagree with you. And,

Opinion of legitimate science > your opinion

I cited sources, I can cite more. Apparently you claim they don't exist. But they do.
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:14 PM
 
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Again, science disagrees with you. Medical experts disagree with you. And,

Opinion of legitimate science > your opinion

I cited sources, I can cite more. Apparently you claim they don't exist. But they do.
None of your sources scientifically proves anything. You can claim they do, but they don't.
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:15 PM
 
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He's a boy in all ways. And he has a mixed-up brain.

The confusion of posters in this thread, comes from people deciding that the mixed-up brain is right, and all the clear and immutable physical evidence is wrong.

I feel sorry for the boy. He'll have conflicts for as long as his brain and his body disagree. And that's nobody's fault, certainly not his... except maybe his parents', who are as confused as the posters in this thread, and keep insisting the mixed-up brain is right while the clear and unchangeable (with present-day technology) physical evidence is wrong.

The confusion represents a triumph of the mindset that says if you tell a big enough lie, often enough, it somehow becomes the truth. Those people have always been wrong about that, and are nothing but liars and wishful thinkers. Including the latest he's-a-girl bunch.

He's a boy with a mixed-up brain. Whose recovery is being carefully blocked by confused, lie-becomes-truth parents.
You are not a medical specialist. What makes you think you know what's best for this child? Would you stake a child's life on your non-medical uninformed opinion?
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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You are 100 prcent right. There is a reason they call it gender identity disorder. Homosexuality should be called same sex attraction disorder as well.

The parents failed to provide adequate guidance and are responsible for this disaster.
Can I ask where you got your degrees in psychology and neurobiology? It's an honour to have such an esteemed scientist in our midst. Thanks for taking the time out of your very busy day.
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