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Old 01-23-2014, 03:53 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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“A hostile campus climate has been the norm for Students of Color in this class throughout the quarter as our epistemological and methodological commitments have been repeatedly questioned by our classmates and our instructor. The barrage of questions by white colleagues and the grammar ‘lessons’ by the professor have contributed to a hostile class climate.”

Actually the real racism is still using words phases that should have been thrown out in the 60's

:ie Students (People) of color, NAACP, United Negro College Fund
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Old 01-23-2014, 03:57 PM
 
Location: The Jar
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Whether or not the students hail from Oakland, California (or not) should be taken into consideration by the professor.
In Oakland, Ebonics is a recognized and legit language.
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Old 01-23-2014, 04:02 PM
 
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So, the 'different standard' accusation by the student against the professor, was not supported, with proof? Is that what you are saying?
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The problem with the question is that it's not pertinent.

The question isn't, "Is it racist to correct the grammar of black students?" The question is, "Did the professor treat black students differently than other students?" The complaint about grammar is not that the professor corrected the bad grammar, the complaint is that the professor applied different standards when correcting the grammar of one group of students as compared to a different group of students.

The accusation was made, however no proof was proffered that the professor applied different standards, because none of the professor's corrections of other groups was shown.
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Old 01-23-2014, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Whether or not the students hail from Oakland, California (or not) should be taken into consideration by the professor.
In Oakland, Ebonics is a recognized and legit language.
Reminds me of that scene from Animal House...

"What are you majoring in?"

"Primitive Cultures"
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Old 01-23-2014, 04:14 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Is it racist to correct black students grammar?
If so, it's no wonder we are progressing backwards, and blacks are the victims of the Education establishments PC efforts.

Blacks are just as capable of learning as anybody else. They need the benefit of a good education. If we do not correct them (as we should be correcting any student that needs it), we fail them.
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Old 01-23-2014, 04:50 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Is it racist to correct black students grammar?

No!

This teacher of enlightenment, is actually trying to teach them what they really need, to get rich, or at least live well in the real world.

First impressions go a very long way. It could mean a career changing break to the big money, or waiting in the unemployment line, never holding a job for very long.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:12 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Our Dept. of Ed, keeps it on a tribal level.
Raised, live and die as a victim....
You can only keep the ignorant down.
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Old 01-23-2014, 06:04 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
The problem with the question is that it's not pertinent.

The question isn't, "Is it racist to correct the grammar of black students?" The question is, "Did the professor treat black students differently than other students?" The complaint about grammar is not that the professor corrected the bad grammar, the complaint is that the professor applied different standards when correcting the grammar of one group of students as compared to a different group of students.

The accusation was made, however no proof was proffered that the professor applied different standards, because none of the professor's corrections of other groups was shown.
No, he didn't treat anyone differently. He corrected the crappy grammar of a black student and now the PC crowd is going after him. Then again, I'm sure you don't care about that since you were sympathizing with the scumbag 14 year old who brutally killed that teacher in Massachusetts.
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Old 01-23-2014, 06:06 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Is it racist to correct black students grammar?
this has been discussed before, it is far more than grammar that is creating this situation, but your link chooses to cherry pick its argument.

Again, there is already a thread... or 3 on this.
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:57 PM
 
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Is it racist to correct black students grammar?
Yes. Its his job. What he was hired to do.

Ebonics is a gutter form of English and should be constantly corrected.
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