It just gets more difficult to buy a handgun in CA...

[scarabchuck]

Originally Posted by Think4Yourself

Nope, sorry but with a market this big SOMEONE will step in to service it. Especially since setting up a new firearms company is actually really cheap given that there are so many really popular gun designs which are public domain (think the M1911). The reality is the big gun makers are just scared poopless of microstamping because they know a large percentage of their sales come from criminals and that said criminals won't want to buy microstamped guns which makes it a heck of a lot easier to solve gun crimes. Just about every law enforcement agency in the state supports it because it really does make it easier to solve crimes.

"large percentage of their sales come from criminals "......Really now?! Thats quite funny. Where do you people come up with this stuff? The sad thing is the sheeple believe it.

[scarabchuck]

Originally Posted by 2tall

...And what if your firing pin legitimately breaks? Will the gun manufacturers have to keep your pattern on file and be ready to machine a new one for you? How much more will this cost? How much time without your defense weapon? What if the manufacturer goes out of business or loses your pattern? How many years do they have to keep the patterns on file for? How do they know you're the legitimate owner of a particular pattern, and not a criminal looking to frame someone for a crime?

What if you're in a love triangle, and the unknown bad guy picks up your range brass and kills your wife while you're at home playing Solitaire, because she won't leave you, and you have no aliby? Then the police show up to your house, and find you are still in possession of your firearm...? Of course, you were at the range that morning, so you have burnt powder all over you.

What about your range brass at indoor ranges where the brass flies into the shooting zone. You can't retrieve it,but now there's brass with your name all over it. What do you do, stop firing every 15 minutes, and everyone gets out their jeweler's monocles and separates their brass?

Another one to add, what about customs? I collect custom 1911's. They are hand built from different parts I select by a gunsmith. How is that going to be micro stamped.

[e30is]

Originally Posted by Gurbie

How do you know "most guns" used in the commission of crimes are stolen? Do you have a source?

I'll say that it seems like it is, however, I don't have a clear number as it isn't accurately, reported.

[01Snake]

Originally Posted by think4yourself

the reality is the big gun makers are just scared poopless of microstamping because they know a large percentage of their sales come from criminals and that said criminals won't want to buy microstamped guns which makes it a heck of a lot easier to solve gun crimes.

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[Think4Yourself]

Originally Posted by Redraven

I wonder if this means that they will not sell to CA law enforcement agencies?

The law exempts all firearms sold to law enforcement agencies.

[e30is]

Originally Posted by scarabchuck

"large percentage of their sales come from criminals "......Really now?! Thats quite funny. Where do you people come up with this stuff? The sad thing is the sheeple believe it.

Yep. Just more fear from the left and gun control advocates. They're only in it for themselves. My life would be pretty crappy if I had to live in such fear.

[Redraven]

Originally Posted by Think4Yourself

The law exempts all firearms sold to law enforcement agencies.

What the law says does not matter. If any firearm manufacturer says "We will not sell our products in CA!", and chooses to include law enforcement agencies in that statement, the CA agencies will NOT be able to purchase those products.
Barrett did it, S&W and Ruger can as well, if they so desire!

[Packard fan]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Some real hard snap caps would fix that before you get out the store. More retarded legislation.
1. Reloading
2. Sheer amount of old weapons
3. Weapons bought and "registered" from out of State

Who would/could go through the serious hassle to buy a handgun then commit a pre-meditated crime? Maybe not none but it wouldn't be many. As a guess I'd bet those people wouldn't be that hard to catch compared to the perps they "think" this will help catching.

Plus, how could someone even tell the pin has been replaced? That is extremely easy to do. Is a Cop going to have a jewelers lense with him?

Agreed. Cali has a BIG problem trying to enforce nonsense like that. Just drive here to Arizona and buy some guns then take them across the river.

[liveluvlife]

Glock will still be around and they make the best guns anyway.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Packard fan

Agreed. Cali has a BIG problem trying to enforce nonsense like that. Just drive here to Arizona and buy some guns then take them across the river.

People move here all the time and all you have to do is "register" it on the DOJ website to make it legal. The reasons can be many, the biggest is a hand me down from a relative.