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Old 01-26-2014, 05:42 PM
 
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We don't get much for the super-sized taxes we pay though. We've got crumbling infrastructure, a sky high national debt, fast falling educational scores, and a fast rising welfare class.
That's because most of it gets stolen by corporatists via their lobbyists.
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Old 01-26-2014, 05:46 PM
 
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We don't get much for the super-sized taxes we pay though. We've got crumbling infrastructure, a sky high national debt, fast falling educational scores, and a fast rising welfare class.
And yet Obama's plan to improve infrastructure has been met with nothing but disdain by the cons.
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Old 01-26-2014, 05:55 PM
 
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The US is better than many other countries at this point but our priorities are taking us down a destructive path. Too much of what is going wrong is because the special interests of a few dictate policy and legislation. And those we have trusted with authority have failed us.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:00 PM
 
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And yet Obama's plan to improve infrastructure has been met with nothing but disdain by the cons.
More government takeover of everything isn't the way to improve this country.

Obama doesn't have any good plan to improve the infrastructure except to further destroy the taxpayers and confiscate our incomes.
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:05 PM
 
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The only thing that we spend more than other peer countries on is the military. Yet, that is holy writ for most conservatives. Cut that by 40%, raise taxes by 2%, and we would be golden, and still have the lowest tax burden in the modern world. I don't see it happening, but I am not going to cry myself to sleep each night about it either.
Wrong. We throw far more money at education than do countries with much better results.

I would like to see a country that has a larger welfare class that has as much as our welfare recipients have.

Example -- housing vouchers --- many hard working taxpaying types don't have $1277 a month for housing but our welfare recipients want luxury that costs them nothing. How many other countries would give up to $1655 for free housing a month and that's not counting the food stamps, free health care and everything else.

Effective March 1, 2011, HAMC Payment Standards for subsidized units will be adjusted as follows: 0 bedrooms = $666, 1 bedroom = $776, 2 bedrooms = $900, 3 bedrooms = $1277, 4 bedrooms = $1495 and 5 bedrooms = $1655.

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Old 01-26-2014, 06:55 PM
 
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We don't get much for the super-sized taxes we pay though. We've got crumbling infrastructure, a sky high national debt, fast falling educational scores, and a fast rising welfare class.
Find someplace better and go there. Until then, quit your bellyaching....
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Old 01-26-2014, 11:44 PM
 
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In response to the OP's question, Yes. Here is why:

-We created one of the first democracies and constitutions worldwide which managed to last into the present-day
-We were possibly one of the first countries which had a peaceful transfer of power form one faction/political party to another (when Thomas Jefferson succeeded John Adams as U.S. President in 1801)
-We were founded on some noble ideals; of course, we still needed centuries to clean up our act, and we still need to clean up our act when it comes to certain things even right now
-Our population is the third-largest in the world
-We have the largest economy worldwide
-We are arguably the most militarily powerful country in the world
-We came up with many ideas and inventions over time
-We have a great culture
-Et cetera
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