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Old 01-27-2014, 06:51 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Boehner clearly showed who he is on his Leno interview. He criticizes his conservative base but not the liberal democrats. He makes no case for conservatism to that audience because he does not believe in it. He is a RINO and might just as well be a democrat. He blamed the shutdown on the GOP because the media did not like it. He clearly blamed Obama and the democrats while the shutdown was happening. He has no leadership abilities or backbone.
He has got to go!
From last fall:
John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now

Jason Chavets
Trey Gowdy
Lamar Smith

There are quite a few that would be better leaders than Bonehead.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Looking at each party.... they have morphed..The Rino party is more like the democratic party of years ago and the true Republican party is the Tea party.. the Obama crowd are socialists who call themselves democrats. A socialist by any other name is still a socialist.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Laurentia
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Jason Chavets
Trey Gowdy
Lamar Smith

There are quite a few that would be better leaders than Bonehead.
Add Justin Amash to the list - he stands by his fundamental principles (c.f. small government, the budget), means what he says, and can work with the other side to forge positive deals (his NSA amendment being the most prominent example). Of course, he's far from a typical Republican, but he's shown a lot more leadership over the past 3 years than Boehner has. He would play a lot better with the grassroots, and he would be a great choice if Republicans want to point and say "We've learned our lesson from the mistakes that were made in the Bush years - check out our brand new program for the country and the House leadership team that will make it happen". Much the same applies to quite a few others, but Republicans greatly underestimate just how much credibility they lost under neocon leadership in the 2000's, and unless they clean that stain from their party with a new program and a new team it will continue to haunt them.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:32 AM
 
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Lol. Any Republican who doesn't pander to the ultraconservative faction is a RINO. No wonder they don't have the numbers to win an election.
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This. The farthest right wing loons have sabotaged their own party. They have no chance of appealing to the broader American public and what is most saddening is that they don't care. They are so happy in their radicalism that they would rather bring the Republican party crashing down than admit that their values are in the wrong.
Your underlying premise is that winning a Presidential election is the end-all, be-all to governance. I guess you haven't learned anything from 2010 forward....which is that the American people want divided government for the sole purpose of keeping the Presidency and the Congress in check. The American people had the opportunity to grant Democrats a supermajority in 2010 and in 2012, but chose not to. For whatever reason, it's obviously not clear to you that having Democratic President with a solidly GOP House has done absolutely nothing to advance the President's agenda. And that's the way the people obviously want it.

What part of that don't you seem to understand?
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:35 AM
 
Location: texas
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Jason Chavets
Trey Gowdy
Lamar Smith

There are quite a few that would be better leaders than Bonehead.
There is a difference in a better leader and whom the House Republicans want in charge. I doubt Lamar Smith can win that spot.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:56 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Add Justin Amash to the list - he stands by his fundamental principles (c.f. small government, the budget), means what he says, and can work with the other side to forge positive deals (his NSA amendment being the most prominent example). Of course, he's far from a typical Republican, but he's shown a lot more leadership over the past 3 years than Boehner has. He would play a lot better with the grassroots, and he would be a great choice if Republicans want to point and say "We've learned our lesson from the mistakes that were made in the Bush years - check out our brand new program for the country and the House leadership team that will make it happen". Much the same applies to quite a few others, but Republicans greatly underestimate just how much credibility they lost under neocon leadership in the 2000's, and unless they clean that stain from their party with a new program and a new team it will continue to haunt them.


Too bad Ron Paul is no longer in the House!
He would be a lot of "the peoples" choice, for speaker.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:59 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There is a difference in a better leader and whom the House Republicans want in charge. I doubt Lamar Smith can win that spot.

He has a better approval rating by long margin, than Bonehead, Pepsi, Dirty Harry & Obummer combined
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:59 AM
 
Location: North America
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It's not Boener, it's the RWNJ faction in the GOP.
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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Boehner clearly showed who he is on his Leno interview. He criticizes his conservative base but not the liberal democrats. He makes no case for conservatism to that audience because he does not believe in it. He is a RINO and might just as well be a democrat. He blamed the shutdown on the GOP because the media did not like it. He clearly blamed Obama and the democrats while the shutdown was happening. He has no leadership abilities or backbone.
He has got to go!
From last fall:
John Boehner: Obama owns this shutdown now
The entire Republican leadership needs to be fired. The majority in this country do not like ObamaCare, want to balance the federal budget and reduce federal spending, and are upset with our lawless and corrupt Obama administration, and yet the repubs are more in-line with the democrats, are not holding government accountable, not reducing spending, the feckless Republican leadership is joining the corrupt Democrats and pushing everything at the bottom of the list.

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Old 01-27-2014, 08:13 AM
 
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It's not Boener, it's the RWNJ faction in the GOP.
You mean the faction that was trying to repeal or delay the disastrous ACA?

If only we would have repealed the ACA before it was allowed to reap all of it's destruction on the nation.
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