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Old 01-28-2014, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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What difference does it make if she "regrets" it now?
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Old 01-28-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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As if it was just an unfortunate natural disaster, that just happened to occur under her watch.
" based on imperfect information." Yep, just like Obama it is NEVER their fault.

Of course the left will excuse her for "imperfect information" but, will continue to bash Bush for the same thing.
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:13 AM
 
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Thread #5 on Hillary Clinton starting yesterday.

Something's definitely up in RWNJ land....
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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This is merely posturing for a 2016 Presidential run. She has to have a moment where she can look back and say "See! I said I regret it!"

She can regret it all she wants, but she is still RESPONSIBLE and that disqualifies her from higher office. She missed that "3am call".
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:27 AM
 
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She missed that "3am call".
Her opponent should make an ad with the 3am clip and then her saying, "what difference does it make?"
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Old 01-28-2014, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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How come you guys never use the whole quote? Are you afraid to admit that it doesn't mean what you want it to mean?

"With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator."

It's a pretty weak (and disingenuous) tactic to rely on quote mining to isolate one part of her statement in order to use it completely out of context, especially when the statements before and after it frame the context quite clearly.

Now, if you had a legitimate point to make, why would you have to rely on dishonest quote mining to make it?

And what part of "It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again" do you disagree with, anyways?
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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How come you guys never use the whole quote? Are you afraid to admit that it doesn't mean what you want it to mean?

"With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator."

It's a pretty weak (and disingenuous) tactic to rely on quote mining to isolate one part of her statement in order to use it completely out of context, especially when the statements before and after it frame the context quite clearly.

Now, if you had a legitimate point to make, why would you have to rely on dishonest quote mining to make it?

And what part of "It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again" do you disagree with, anyways?
If we really want to "do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again," it's generally a good step to start with what actually happened. Wouldn't you agree that the steps to prevent it might differ for some guys on walk one night versus a coordinated terrorist attack?

"What difference does it make" really just meant, I'm tired of being asked, leave me alone.

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Old 01-28-2014, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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If we really want to "do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again," it's generally a good step to start with what actually happened.
"What actually happened" has been the focus of exhaustive investigation, and had been for some time before Hilary made her statement.

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Wouldn't you agree that the steps to prevent it might differ for some guys on walk one night versus a coordinated terrorist attack?
I'm sure Hilary would agree too. Too bad for you she wasn't saying otherwise, she was merely pointing out that knowing the motives of the attackers wouldn't make those 4 Americans any less dead.
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Old 01-28-2014, 12:12 PM
 
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"What actually happened" has been the focus of exhaustive investigation, and had been for some time before Hilary made her statement. .
Investigation without clear results due to the lack of transparency of the most transparent administration."

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Too bad for you she wasn't saying otherwise, she was merely pointing out that knowing the motives of the attackers wouldn't make those 4 Americans any less dead.
No, she wasn't. She was saying people are dead so we should focus on figuring out what happened and how to prevent it.
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Old 01-28-2014, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Her opponent should make an ad with the 3am clip and then her saying, "what difference does it make?"
Her opponents will make all sorts of adds. Some will be more honest than others.

None are likely to ultimately beat her.
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