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Old 01-29-2014, 06:18 AM
 
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Your limited understanding of what the 14th amendment is...is astounding.
I know exactly why the 14th Amendment was made and ratified. Do you?
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Old 01-29-2014, 06:44 AM
 
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By a two-to-one margin, blacks reject the notion that homosexual rights compare with the civil rights struggles of the 1950s and '60s, according to a new poll commissioned by Robert Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television.

The poll found that more blacks oppose redefining marriage and believe clergy are right to denounce homosexuality.

In all, 55 percent of blacks deny the idea “that equal rights for gays are the same as equal rights for African Americans.” Only 28 percent believe they are the same.

“It really saddens me and a lot of African-Americans, because definitely, there is no comparison to be made there,” a woman told John Ritchie of the Catholic group Tradition, Family, Property. “I just don't like the comparison, because to me there is absolutely none.”

LifeSiteNews Mobile | Blacks don't believe gay rights are the same as civil rights: poll

Besides the majority of the black population (who experienced true discrimination historically), there are many sources out there about this false comparison.

Since when do conservatives use "what blacks want" as the metric of things that should or should not be done?

And for the record, blacks do not "own" civil rights. American blacks were not the first population ever in the history of the world to struggle against oppression, and they will not be the last.

Indeed, many of the blacks who are soooo concerned about comparisons of gay rights struggle to black civil rights struggle are in fact, oppressors themselves seeking to maintain their own power and status quo on that issue.
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Old 01-29-2014, 06:47 AM
 
Location: texas
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The 14TH Amendment was to guarantee citizenship to former slaves

I know exactly why the 14th Amendment was made and ratified. Do you?

If you believe the 14th's only intention and reason was to rectify newly freed slaves' citizenship, then no you don't.
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Old 01-29-2014, 06:50 AM
 
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maybe a constitutional amendment is needed to define marriage as a man and a woman.

LOL, Good luck with that.

How about we just make gays 3/4 of people, responsible for 3/4 of taxes since they only get 3/4 of rights everyone else does?
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Old 01-29-2014, 07:10 AM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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Marriage is a law now? Hm. I thought it was a contract. Again I think ALL STATES should take Oklahoma's road and remove government from marriage. Then don't have to recognize anything. I am married and I am all for it. Guess we are just supposed to change the definition of marriage after THOUSANDS of years because homosexuals and their allies say so. Not gonna happen.
How has the definition of your marriage changed? Enquiring minds want to know.
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:16 PM
 
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If you believe the 14th's only intention and reason was to rectify newly freed slaves' citizenship, then no you don't.
It wasn't to legitimize same sex marriage for sure.
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It did crack it just didn't fall apart just like it won't fall apart on this idea alone...its just another crack in the cement keeping the country together its quite fractured by now. Again why even have a 10th amendment if the federal government doesn't like what you are doing they just act like the school bully and force you to do as they say...Indiana isn't backwards or on the wrong side of history they are in the right. Everyone thinks yer nuts if yer the only one running in the right direction and they are all running in the wrong...just stand your ground. The only tyrant around is the lone judge who thinks his word carries more weight than MILLIONS of citizens of a particular state does. Indiana should have just removed all government control over marriage like Oklahoma is doing...nothing to overturn there leave it up to a religious contract...I am sure when the 14th amendment was added to the constitution they had homosexual marriage in their thoughts.
I see you are still upset over interracial marriages being legal. Do you get offended when you see an interracial couple holding hands and kissing?
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:59 PM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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Because its normal and procreation sustains cultures.
Homosexuality is normal too and procreation does not need marriage. Marriage is a legal bound, that is all, it is not needed to reproduce. Anyone who thinks so needs to study biology.
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Old 01-30-2014, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Pa
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I don't get why people even care who decides to marry who. Bill loves John. So what, none of my business. Bill and John want to get married. So what none of my business. Their marriage doesn't affect my life or anyone else's.
If it's against your religion then don't attend and allow churches to decline doing the ceremony. What's the big deal other than some people trying to force their morale opinions upon others?
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Old 01-30-2014, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Marriage does not require reproduction and that is why seniors can marry and sterile couples. Give it up. You have lost and are on the wrong side of history.
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Sorry dude, but the majority does not rule over the minority. Interesting that it is a tyrant judge when it comes to making a decision for marriage equality, but not a tyrant judge when he makes a decision against it. Stupid, judges are there because a legal decision cannot be left up to the people. Religion does not own marriage, they just want to control it and who can marry according to their beliefs. They are on the wrong side of history, just like every single bigot that stood against marriage equality for the races.
Where do these silly little slogans like "on the wrong side of history" come from? MSNBC?

Liberal non-thinkers are always obvious by the nonsense they repeat.
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