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By that logic, consciously having sex with someone and conceiving is ID.
No, that's a natural process unless one artificially alters the resultant offspring's genetic material. Artificially altering geneticmaterial to produce crops that have otherwise non-naturally occurring attributes is, in fact, ID.
No, that's a natural process unless one artificially alters the resultant offspring's genetic material. Artificially altering geneticmaterial to produce crops that have otherwise non-naturally occurring attributes is, in fact, ID.
Where does the bible mention genes?
Better yet, where does the Bible acknowledge that plants have genes?
The church and religion has always stunted the progress of humanity. Christianity has done nothing for human advancements, no religion has, to keep us in the dark and feed us crap, they are good at that.
Some of history's greatest scientists were religious. The church established things like the University system and the first hospitals and today the Catholic church operates 1 out of 4 hospitals in the world and 1 in 6 in the US. Ivy league universities like Harvard, Princeton and Yale (as well as most other universities of that age or older) have Christian roots. But no, religion has really held the world back.
One of my best friends is a young earth creationist and an electronics technician for a biotech company. Science and God are not incompatible; only the nuttiest minority of religious adherents would argue otherwise.
ID isn't Creationism. Creationism asserts that God created the universe and all living things. The definition of ID is: "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection"
ID neither asserts that the universe and all living things were created, nor does it name a designer.
ID isn't Creationism. Creationism asserts that God created the universe and all living things. The definition of ID is: "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection"
ID neither asserts that the universe and all living things were created, nor does it name a designer.
Nor is there any reason at all to believe it true.
Some corn we modified to grow faster is proof of the origins of the entire universe? That's your argument?
If you really want to play the semantics game, any extension of a natural process (human life and intelligence) is also under the net of an undirected process, or natural selection. Because humans came to be as nature, anything they introduce is also nature. Chimps using sticks to catch bugs isn't ID, so humans using their evolutionary advantage to better their lives (grow better crops) isn't ID either.
It's funny, you tried to take god out of your argument to make it stronger, but it had the opposite effect.
Nor is there any reason at all to believe it true.
Fair enough. Here's a challenge for you...
Prove that the currently existing GENETICALLY Modified crops would have evolved via the Theory of Evolution. Let's see your evolution map, including any and all possible offspring permutations, naturally occurring genetic mutations, rule out the deleterious effects of such mutations, the heritability of the mutated traits, etc., etc.
Here's only a partial list of GMO crops:
Maize
Wheat
Rapeseed/Canola
Soybeans
Cotton
And remember that several have stacked non-naturally occurring GM traits.
You can even use... gasp... SCIENCE to try to do it.
Humans came from nature.
Corn came from nature.
Humans use evolutionary advantage to grow better corn.
Not in regards to GMO crops.
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Explain where ID comes in.
Artificially altered genetic material, resulting in life forms that would not otherwise exist.
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