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Old 03-25-2014, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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Originally Posted by gretsky99 View Post
You obviously have no clue regarding economics 101. As business owner myself go ahead and raise my taxes. That'll definitely help the bottom line for hiring and investing in equipment. I know I'll just raise my prices and magically all my customers will more than happy to pay. Boy you libs are just economic geniuses!
The federal government is not managed the same as a business.
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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If the Republicans were really fiscal Conservatives, at the end of these 2 wars they went into, there should be large tax increases to bring debt down. It took 30 years or so of tax rates in the 50-60% range to pay off WWII. The wars, which were going to pay for themselves, are part of the issues happening today. We still are paying for Korea and Viet Nam, through the VA. We sent people to war and need to support the damaged people from the current wars for the next 30-50 years.

When going to war you need to understand all the costs and that they last untill the last vet. is gone.
"Conservatives, at the end of these 2 wars they went into,"

I hate to break your bubble BUT, THEY include the following:

Dem's who voted FOR the wars:
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE) Current VP
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY) Current Sec of state (Labeled Smartest women in the world by many lefties)
Daschle (D-SD) Leader of the Senate at the time and co-sponsored the bill
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC) Ran for VP
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA) Ran for Pres.
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT) Ran for Pres.
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV) Current leader of the Senate
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)

Why do you, and many other dems ignore the facts and ONLY blame repubs and conservatives?

WITHOUT the dem support, the Senate Majority Leader and the House Minority leader BOTH dems cosponsored the bill authorizing Bush to take the action he did.

How many on the list did you support of vote for?
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:09 AM
 
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For the worse! Obama ruining my children's future all by design. I can't believe Bill O'Reilly said at the end of the interview “I think your heart is in the right place.”.----Idiot!

Debt Up $6.666 Trillion Under Obama | CNS News
But look how awful the economy and jobs, and poverty are, so it's not as if we don't have anything historic to show for all those trillions.
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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Why do posts like this keep occurring based on platforms that always seem irrelevant?
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:12 AM
 
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If the Republicans were really fiscal Conservatives, at the end of these 2 wars they went into, there should be large tax increases to bring debt down. It took 30 years or so of tax rates in the 50-60% range to pay off WWII. The wars, which were going to pay for themselves, are part of the issues happening today. We still are paying for Korea and Viet Nam, through the VA. We sent people to war and need to support the damaged people from the current wars for the next 30-50 years.

When going to war you need to understand all the costs and that they last untill the last vet. is gone.
Just having an (R) after their name does not make the person a Conservative, much less a fiscal conservative, anymore then putting a (D) after their name means they are opposed to crony corporate cronyism.
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:20 AM
 
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For the worse! Obama ruining my children's future all by design. I can't believe Bill O'Reilly said at the end of the interview “I think your heart is in the right place.”.----Idiot!

Debt Up $6.666 Trillion Under Obama | CNS News
The rank and absolute know nothingism of conservatives where it concerns the national debt is truly amazing.

Here it is 2014 and conservatives are still pretending or not understanding that their advocacy for the GWBush tax cuts, their advocacy for the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, combined with the worst financial crisis which caused the worst recession since the Depression, are all mostly responsible for the ballooning national debt.

This is not to excuse President Obama, but reality is reality and the reality is that conservative policies during the GWBush administration cheerleader by conservatives are mostly responsible for the increase in the national debt.

The fact that conservatives continue to ignore this reality shows why I think so little of conservatism.
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"Conservatives, at the end of these 2 wars they went into,"

I hate to break your bubble BUT, THEY include the following:

Dem's who voted FOR the wars:
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE) Current VP
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY) Current Sec of state (Labeled Smartest women in the world by many lefties)
Daschle (D-SD) Leader of the Senate at the time and co-sponsored the bill
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC) Ran for VP
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA) Ran for Pres.
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT) Ran for Pres.
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV) Current leader of the Senate
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)

Why do you, and many other dems ignore the facts and ONLY blame repubs and conservatives?

WITHOUT the dem support, the Senate Majority Leader and the House Minority leader BOTH dems cosponsored the bill authorizing Bush to take the action he did.

How many on the list did you support of vote for?
The Republicans who claim to be Fiscal conservatives have no idea how to lower the debt. Fisal consevatives believe in paying their bills and having little or no debt. Not one Republican can claim that. The idea of cutting income while waiting for the bills to come due is nonsence.



As to the vote, a very good job of making stuff up to fit the issue lead to the results. nice try to deflect
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Just having an (R) after their name does not make the person a Conservative, much less a fiscal conservative, anymore then putting a (D) after their name means they are opposed to crony corporate cronyism.
Right now the (R)'s in Congress are only interested in keeping taxes low for their sponsers. They also want to try to keep the IRS from changing the rules that 501(c)(4)'s are created.
Something about that money means free speech - and business doesnt want the public to know.
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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The federal government is not managed the same as a business.
And it shows. If businesses were run like the federal government the owner would be jailed and the company would be defunk.

Government, at least Obama's government doesn't even know that businesses have to pay quarterly taxes. idiots!
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Old 03-25-2014, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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One must be ridiculously stupid to believe that tax cuts, which increased revenues, is responsible for spending..
Those increases in tax revenues were primarily attributed to an economy being driven by the housing bubble.

Those tax cuts did not expire when the bubble popped and the economy crashed.
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