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View Poll Results: Force private practices to accept at least one healthcare.gov exchange plan?
Yes 5 8.77%
No 52 91.23%
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-07-2014, 04:10 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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About 10% like to force private business into this mess. Not a surprise.
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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From your link:



So politifact even calls it a broken promise but you're still trying to defend his idiotic legislation? The fact is that he made this promise not once, not twice, but nearly 20 times that I've seen video of, and yet premiums for the "typical" family of four have gone up, not down. Why does it matter if he said insurance premiums would be cut by "up to" anything when the premiums are rising instead of falling? Face it, Obamacare (the ACA for those wishing to keep Obama's image from being tarnished by his legacy) is the worst piece of legislation to hit our country in decades.
I am fully aware of what it says which is why I posted it.

Premiums for a typical family increased 89% between 2000-2010, according to Kaiser Institute.

Would premiums have risen another 89% between 2010-2020, in absence of ACA legislation? If not, what specifically would have put the breaks on increases?

Will premiums for ACA compliant plans increase 89% between 2010-2020?
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Where's the "Are you kidding? Hell no!" choice in the poll?
its up or what this that demonstrates the obvious ignorant of the average Obama voter.

Question only for those that support Obama care and Beckett is the best thing to ever come out of Congress.

if we Sovietized all the doctors in the United States and force them by law to work for free, perhaps the peoples proletariat could give them a daily bowl of soup, what do you suppose the total cost savings would be?

Hint: The answer surprisingly low less than 10 percent which demonstrates just ignorant the average Obamacare supporter is.
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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That's correct, but then what? It most cases that hospital is stuck with the patient. Unless they do not have the capability of treating the medical/surgical problem, or if the patient is medically stable and they can get a public facility to accept the patient through a transfer.
According to the CDC, 13% of ER visits result in an admission. It is reasonable to assume that a percentage of these admissions have insurance.

FASTSTATS - Emergency Department Visits

No medical facility is required to treat Cancer.

Most Cancer Treatment facilities require patients to prove their ability to pay, at the point of service or absorb the deductible, before they are accepted as patients.

No hospital or medical practice is required to fill a prescription unless the patient has appropriate insurance or can pay cash at the point of delivery. Some medical practices may dispense a limited number of samples to those who cannot pay.

Then there's the controversial claim that 62% of all personal bankruptcies contain medical claims due to being uninsured or exceeding the lifetime cap of their insurance plan.

Non believers cite the figure as bogus because such bankruptcies contain other financial obligations. I guess some people do not understand that seriously ill people exhaust their financial resources, often drain the equity out of their homes, use credit cards to pay certain medical related expenses and often cannot work.

In some cases, insured people attempt to switch healthcare plans to reset the annual/lifetime cap. In some cases, they fail to disclose preexisting conditions and it comes back to bite them.

No healthcare system anywhere is perfect for all the people, all the time. Nations with universal healthcare continuously tweak and reform it.
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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its up or what this that demonstrates the obvious ignorant of the average Obama voter.

Question only for those that support Obama care and Beckett is the best thing to ever come out of Congress.

if we Sovietized all the doctors in the United States and force them by law to work for free, perhaps the peoples proletariat could give them a daily bowl of soup, what do you suppose the total cost savings would be?

Hint: The answer surprisingly low less than 10 percent which demonstrates just ignorant the average Obamacare supporter is.
I support the principles of the ACA legislation and do not support mandating medical practices to accept insurance, all insurers and all plans within insurers.

There are many things that can be done to lower the cost of healthcare, including but not limited to medical tort reform, allowing Medicare to negotiate the price of prescription medications and medical supplies.

Independent of this legislation, the business of medicine has been evolving all along.

MDs/hospitals employ defensive medicine strategies to mitigate the likelihood of a malpractice claim.

Medical practices increasingly rely on Physician Assistants/Nurse Practitioners.

MDs are more likely to be employees than owners of private practices.

MD employee compensation and reimbursement is tied to referrals and/or metrics established by private insurers.

The concept of group appointments is gaining traction and receives high marks from patients with chronic illnesses.
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