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View Poll Results: Have you read it and did it change your mind?
Read it,made me change my mind or ask more questions 4 11.11%
Read it,still think Obama is a natural born citizen 5 13.89%
Haven't read it but want to 1 2.78%
Won't read it 21 58.33%
Just here to troll the thread 5 13.89%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-06-2014, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, AZ
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post


yep, and witness to the time of his birth.
Abercrombie stated this:


ABERCROMBIE: No, I remember him as a little boy, with his grandfather. Because his mother and father separated. That story's pretty well known. And, the father, Barak Sr. went on to the mainland to go to school, and then back to Kenya. And, his mom went on, married again. In the process, I would see Little Barry, as his grandfather called him, Little Barry and his grandfather mostly, all over. They walked everywhere. Stanley Dunham, his grandfather, took him everywhere. And, they met everybody and knew everybody...

 
Old 02-06-2014, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, AZ
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. Why would Obama's mother or grandparents lie about Obama's place of birth as if in 1961, they planned on him, a mixed kid, would run for president in the future?


. His mother is an American citizen who was born in Wichita, Kansas thus making Obama an Natural Born U.S. citizen
."
Here is the answer. To get him Citizenship and enjoy all the benefits of it. It wasn't that they did it with foresight of him becoming president some day. That is a ludicrous assumption perpetuated be Obama supporters. Now for the next bolded sentence. I will lay out the law. His mother was never old enough to confer U.S. citizenship, let alone natural born Citizenship at the time of his birth in 1961. She was actually right at 4 months shy of her 19th birthday on Nov 29, 1961 of being able to make him a Citizen. I will highlight the law that affected Stanley Ann Dunham.


From the U.S. State Department:

A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be genetically related to the child to transmit U.S. citizenship.

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad
 
Old 02-06-2014, 09:51 AM
 
Location: North America
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All of what you mentioned was most likely based on false information given by either Stanley Ann or the grandparents. That false information would have triggered the newspaper announcements which never stated where the specific place of birth took place. As Zullo stated, the birth index's mean nothing since they found two adopted children were placed in the 1961 index that were actually born 2 years prior.

So, let me get this premise straight, somehow, by either a psychic prediction, or by use of a car with a flux capacitor, they knew Barack Hussein Obama was going to run and be elected President of the United States not once, but twice, so they falsified his records to fool the American Public into electing him?

Sounds legit.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 09:54 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Britt Reid View Post
Here is the answer. To get him Citizenship and enjoy all the benefits of it. It wasn't that they did it with foresight of him becoming president some day. That is a ludicrous assumption perpetuated be Obama supporters. Now for the next bolded sentence. I will lay out the law. His mother was never old enough to confer U.S. citizenship, let alone natural born Citizenship at the time of his birth in 1961. She was actually right at 4 months shy of her 19th birthday on Nov 29, 1961 of being able to make him a Citizen. I will highlight the law that affected Stanley Ann Dunham.


From the U.S. State Department:

A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen, is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.) The U.S. citizen parent must be genetically related to the child to transmit U.S. citizenship.

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad
Why break the law and commit fraud to get him citizenship? Why not just apply as an American mother to get American citizenship for your child?
 
Old 02-06-2014, 09:56 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Oh Goody! I see we're back to the birth certificate. And, in other news, Donald Trump is interested in running for Governor and/or President. Maybe he'll donate to the CCP cause.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 10:06 AM
 
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How The Globalists Create Heart Attacks

That's what happened to Loretta...
first up, that's speculation, not fact. you said you wanted to deal in facts.

second, for your speculation to be correct requires that the killer was on the fixed wheel plane knowing it would crash and was able to pull off the assassination in the middle of seven witnesses. by no stretch of the imagination is this a feasible scenario.


fuddy was the third health official and fifth state official to confirm the facts of obama's birth. all others are alive and well. the "assassination" belief does not hold up to scrutiny.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 10:14 AM
 
Location: North America
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first up, that's speculation, not fact. you said you wanted to deal in facts.

second, for your speculation to be correct requires that the killer was on the fixed wheel plane knowing it would crash and was able to pull off the assassination in the middle of seven witnesses. by no stretch of the imagination is this a feasible scenario.


fuddy was the third health official and fifth state official to confirm the facts of obama's birth. all others are alive and well. the "assassination" belief does not hold up to scrutiny.

You know injecting facts into this mountainous pile of made-up manure will do no good, right? The only purpose of books like this is to get the naive to fork over their hard earned $$$. And judging by some on this forum, the ruse worked.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 10:16 AM
 
Location: North America
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Why break the law and commit fraud to get him citizenship? Why not just apply as an American mother to get American citizenship for your child?

It's the flux capacitor theory. (Time travel, in case you're not a geek like me).
 
Old 02-06-2014, 10:31 AM
 
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Your links that you cling too are from extremely biased Obama supporters. They have gone out of their way to try to disrupt Arpaio's Cold Case Posse investigation.
great, then provide evidence to counter theirs.
 
Old 02-06-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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Abercrombie stated this:


ABERCROMBIE: ..... They walked everywhere....
are you trying to infer that ambercrombie didn't know obama until he was a few years old because he simply uses "walking" when describing the whole family instead of "walking pushing obama in a stroller/carriage" ?

really?
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