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Old 02-07-2014, 05:22 AM
 
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Weird, because I remember signing a Selective Service paper when I was 18.
Got a point there.I was wondering what you meant.
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Princeton
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The Christian Right is dead. I'm 24 and I don't know any people my age who would consider themselves part of the Christian Right, despite the fact that I grew up in the most conservative environment ever (gated community, private Christian school, Presbyterian church) and still keep in touch with people from my childhood. Libertarianism is in, Christian Conservatism is out. I hate to disappoint my parents' generation, but the truth is that my generation will probably end the War on Drugs, legalize gambling, raise our kids on secular principles, lower the drinking age, end the military draft, etc.
In the LE circles where I worked, before retirement, we had a cool inside laugh, we called the young officers " The young Republicans"

Your statement is big and bold that quiet frankly is a stretch at best. I know a bunch of young men/woman who are all educated with their BA's and BS degrees out in work field doing some very impressive work out in their communities, and some are Christians, all are Conservatives. These young men and woman are working for the Govt, military, LE and the corporate world, their smart, their tough, and they're on their way in life. So, I throw the Flag on this one.
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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The Christian Right is dead. I'm 24 and I don't know any people my age who would consider themselves part of the Christian Right, despite the fact that I grew up in the most conservative environment ever (gated community, private Christian school, Presbyterian church) and still keep in touch with people from my childhood. Libertarianism is in, Christian Conservatism is out. I hate to disappoint my parents' generation, but the truth is that my generation will probably end the War on Drugs, legalize gambling, raise our kids on secular principles, lower the drinking age, end the military draft, etc.

OP I'd just like to point out that one can be a Libertarian and still have faith. I'm proof of it. I just don't feel that the government should be in the business of legislating morality, such as telling people what they can or can't do with their bodies, or what two consenting adults can or cannot do in their own bedroom. I prefer to worry about my own morality, and my own relationship with the Man upstairs.
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:35 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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The Christian Right is dead. I'm 24 and I don't know any people my age who would consider themselves part of the Christian Right, despite the fact that I grew up in the most conservative environment ever (gated community, private Christian school, Presbyterian church) and still keep in touch with people from my childhood. Libertarianism is in, Christian Conservatism is out. I hate to disappoint my parents' generation, but the truth is that my generation will probably end the War on Drugs, legalize gambling, raise our kids on secular principles, lower the drinking age, end the military draft, etc.
They said the same thing in the early-mid 70's and look what happened in the 80's.
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Old 02-07-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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They said the same thing in the early-mid 70's and look what happened in the 80's.
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Old 02-07-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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The Christian Right is dead. I'm 24 and I don't know any people my age who would consider themselves part of the Christian Right, despite the fact that I grew up in the most conservative environment ever (gated community, private Christian school, Presbyterian church) and still keep in touch with people from my childhood. Libertarianism is in, Christian Conservatism is out. I hate to disappoint my parents' generation, but the truth is that my generation will probably end the War on Drugs, legalize gambling, raise our kids on secular principles, lower the drinking age, end the military draft, etc.


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Old 02-07-2014, 09:45 AM
 
Location: texas
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Then you need to expand your horizons. I worked extensively with young people (ages 15 thru college age) while living in Tennessee only a couple of years ago. I couldn't organize trainings or meetings on Sunday mornings or Wednesday evenings because many of them attended church.

Fast forward over to when I lived in Wyoming. Plenty of young people who are hard working, church going, volunteering, respectful to their elders, young people who know better than to make smarmy grand pronouncements to the world.

I don't know where you live, but Christianity is not dead. This from a libertarian (primarily conservative voting) atheist.

Saying "I hate to disappoint my parents generation" is a useless and banal phrase. You don't hate it at all.

Eventually you (and other like minded young people) will realize that you don't know it all, you don't have all the answers and that people who have more years of experience in this world than you do, maybe (just maybe) are smarter than you think.

An old saying - if you don't stand for something you will fall for anything. And this country does not have a military draft.
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I lived in Wyoming. Plenty of young people who are hard working, church going, volunteering, respectful to their elders, young people who know better than to make smarmy grand pronouncements to the world.
Jut as these young people don't. There are plenty of good kids like you described that also partake in all the other vices in the world.

When I go to church, I don't fire up a bowl or crack a cold one. Most parents wouldn't recognize their child when with their friends... Having manners and knowing how to behave does not make one an angel. Letting lose doesnt make them a devil either.
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Old 02-07-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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These are the wrong people to assess faith on. People don't make real decisions on faith until their parents influence is no longer present or till age 25 to 35ish. Even today at age 20 I'd have to ask off for Sundays because if I'm living in my parents house, I'm going to church. But if you want to see really how I feel about religion, stop by the religion and spirituality forum. My view definitely isn't right wing christian.

They did a poll once (2009ish I think) in oneness apostolic churches and 80% of children raised in these churches backslid, or left the faith.

Both my grandparents were devout Catholics. None of my cousins attend mass regularly.

The Christian right isn't dead, but it's slipping.
Ah yes, backslid as a term to describe enlightenment to reality.
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Old 02-07-2014, 03:45 PM
 
Location: texas
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From your cited link:

Circumstances in whick Abortion should remain legal

Do you believe abortions should be legal in any circumstance- 25%

Do you believe abortions should be legal under certain circumstances- 52%

Do you bewleive abortion should be illegal in all circumstances- 20%


Clearly from the poll, one can self-identify as "pro-life" and still want to keep abortions safe and legal.

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Old 02-07-2014, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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The Christian Right is dead

I hate to disappoint you (actually I would love to disappoint you) but it is alive and well with the younger generation where I live. Sorry you live in such an athiestic left environment. But there again, you labelled Christians as "the Christian right".
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