Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
...not to mention that many of those carvings and figurines have been proven fake. Other "evidence" is nothing more than pareidolia.
In 1973 during an interview with Erich von Däniken, Uschuya stated he had faked the stones that he had sold. In 1975 Uschuya and another farmer named Irma Gutierrez de Aparcana confirmed that they had forged the stones they gave to Cabrera by copying the images from comic books, text books and magazines. Later Uschuya recanted the forging story during an interview with a German journalist, saying that he had claimed they were a hoax to avoid imprisonment for selling archaeological artifacts. In 1977, during the BBC documentary Pathway to the Gods, Uschuya produced an Ica stone with a dentist's drill and claimed to have produced the patina by baking the stone in cow dung. That same year, another BBC documentary was released with a skeptical analysis of Cabrera's stones, and the newfound attention to the phenomenon prompted Peruvian authorities to arrest Uschuya, as Peruvian law prohibits the sale of archaeological discoveries. Uschuya recanted his claim that he had found them and instead admitted they were hoaxes, saying "Making these stones is easier than farming the land." He engraved the stones using images in books and magazines as examples and knives, chisels and a dental drill. He also said that he had not made all the stones. He was not punished, and continued to sell similar stones to tourists as trinkets. The stones continued to be made and carved by other artists as forgeries of the original forgeries.
[SIZE=3]Ica stones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/SIZE]
And the Acambero claim was debunked as a fraud 60 years ago in 1953.
Di Peso, Charles C., 1953. The clay figurines of Acambaro, Guanajuato, Mexico. American Antiquity 18(4): 388-389.
A person would have to really gullible to believe those hoaxes in the first place and really stupid not to do a little research first before posting them.
If Ham or Graham had any balls they'd take on Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Completely agree. Dr. Tyson could (and would) decimate them but he also has enough sense not to debate them to begin with. Dr. Tyson is one of the most charismatic and likable scientists out there... up there with Nye - maybe even moreso - but 10x more articulate and knowledgable, especially in astrophysics. His ability to captivate an audience is really amazing and probably had something to do with why Fox is picking up Cosmos again with him hosting.
People also need to realize two things. Firstly, science is starting to touch on the fact that something can indeed come from nothing through the Casimir Effect/Quantum Field Theory/Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. It doesn't go all the way to explain how the Big Bang happened but it's starting to indicate "hey there are some crazy things hopping at the sub-atomic level that don't seem to conform to our sense of normal."
The 2nd thing people need to know is that scientists have already done an experiment in a closed system with a mixture of gasses representative of what we think was Earth's early atmosphere, put water in there, and zapped it with electricity. Using nothing but water, gasses and electricity, they "accidentally" created over 20 amino acids, the building blocks of life. They found out later that the gasses were not all that representative of Earth's early atmosphere based on new data but it still showed that, given the right mixture of gasses, water, and a little lightning, life can indeed start.
I doubt it, I saw some posts all about how Bill Nye was destroyed in the debate....turned out the vast majority were just repeating others, and a few had watched it, but believed totally that anything said in the bible destroyed anything of value that Nye said.
It was.....bizarre.
Did you watch the debate? From your response, it seems you didn't. Bill Nye sounded like a broken record. He really didn't make any direct challenges to what Ken Ham said. Frankly, Bill Nye was putting me to sleep.
Ken Ham did a wonderful job of being polite, and disagreeing. Which grants him a great deal of respect form me.
He also did a wonderful job of losing the argument. Bill Nye did a great job. Those thinking otherwise either didnt watch it, and are repeating what they've been told, OR watched it and failed to understand the difference between "this is science backed up by these facts, and these methodologies" and "I get all my knowledge from this book here (bible)"
Well, I guess you weren't paying attention then. You heard what you wanted to hear.
I love to see the Christians eat their own here. LMAO if anyone does not agree with their crazy side of things its off to the stake to be burned with you. LOL. Crazy nuts. The earth is 6kyo and that is just the way it is. LMAO Crazy nuts.
Really? He did? He said it, but he couldn't prove it.
You are correct. I believe Atoms, Isotopes, and Radiometric dating are a ruse invented to discredit creationism and Hamm.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
