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Old 02-10-2014, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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No one is equal to another. Marriage is not a right....The states now need to end state recognition of ALL marriage...that will be legal and **** off the homosexual lobby.
Marriage is in FACT a right as stated by the supreme court in 14 separate cases. You might disagree with them, but they determine these things, not you.

 
Old 02-10-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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Lol show me in the constitution where it says YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET MARRIED TO WHOEVER YOU WANT.I'll wait.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 06:55 PM
 
Location: texas
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Then why not just put it on the ballot and let them all vote for it like they did before? Very simple. Then I would just say Nevada is full of idiots. Which doesn't surprise me...ever been there? Man oh man...nothing but desert and then a few bright cities...I bet someone could make a buck if they opened the first homosexual brothel LMAO...
Nevada is. The Nevada Attorney General's decision not to be part of the 9th Circuit appeal does not have anything to do with the Nevada Senate working to put a constitutional repeal of the 2002 SSM ban on the ballot for a vote.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 06:56 PM
 
Location: KKKalfornia
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any law establishing guay marriage would be unconstitutional

for in our great land, there is suppose to be seperation of church and state.

marriage is the church's institution, not the state's. the state has only borrowed it for their own use. should the state not like its definition, tough tata's. take it or leave it, but one isnt allowed to change that which does not belong to them.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Lol show me in the constitution where it says YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET MARRIED TO WHOEVER YOU WANT.I'll wait.
States have laws, benefits, and protections called marriage.
The constitution says "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; ... nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
By denying same sex couples marriage, states are in direct conflict with the constitution.

The only way states can deny equal protection of the laws to a segment of society is to show how doing so will further a compelling state interest. So far no state has been able to show how denying same sex couples marriage furthers any state interest.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 07:04 PM
 
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any law establishing guay marriage would be unconstitutional

for in our great land, there is suppose to be seperation of church and state.

marriage is the church's institution, not the state's. the state has only borrowed it for their own use. should the state not like its definition, tough tata's. take it or leave it, but one isnt allowed to change that which does not belong to them.
Sorry, but no church owns the definition of marriage for the rest of us, and our government can not legally favor your religious beliefs over anyone elses.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 07:07 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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any law establishing guay marriage would be unconstitutional

for in our great land, there is suppose to be seperation of church and state.
Some churches have no problem with gay marriage, and choose to celebrate same-sex weddings in their churches.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 07:10 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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as long as the whiny minority gets its way its OK
The only person who's really whining on this thread so far is you.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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It has amazed me for some time now that Nevada outlaws gay marriage. The money that they could make in their wedding related industry must be very hard to pass up.
 
Old 02-10-2014, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The state cannot fight the decision made by the supreme court last year, no state will be able to fight that decision. DOMA was unconstitutional and all state bans on same sex marriage are unconstitutional. All citizens of this country are equal and that includes homosexuals. We pay taxes, we vote, we are US citizens and all the laws in this country need to be fairly and equally applied and bans on same sex marriage have no standing, no grounds, for there is no legitimate reason to deny same sex couples the right to equal marriage. Marriage is a right and it will not and cannot be denied us. And, the majority does not have the right to make laws against a minority, that is tyranny of the majority and where does it end, just with gay people, or shall we include racial discrimination, or sex, or economic discrimination? I feel that those who use their morals or beliefs to judge others or to deny them equality are the ones who are mentally unstable.
You're getting a little ahead of yourself there. The SCOTUS decision did not address the constitutionality of banning same sex marriage. In time the Court will have to decide this, of course, but for now there is no constitutional right to marry for same sex persons in states where it is banned. I think you will see those bans fall in most jurisdictions - certainly in Nevada and Arizona which are under the jurisdiction of the 9th Circuit. In the unlikely event they do not, both AZ and NV will have ballot measures in 2016 to repeal that, according to recent polling, will pass. But the courts in the southern states are more conservative and may well rule the opposite and leave it to the Supremes to sort out. Gay marriage everywhere is an inevitability, but it is not here just yet.
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