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i dont care if they can vote or not. all i am saying is that there is a process by which they can get some of their rights, including the right to vote, restored. its part of the law which they can follow.
Once they have paid their debt, they've paid their debt. They've paid their debt by giving up their liberty for a certain amount of time. Once that time is up, it's up. They return to normal society and must function in normal society. One function of that is having a say in society.
When someone is convicted of a felony, a jury of their peers has decided that they are guilty of something which demands forfeiture of rights/freedom. For every one person wrongly convicted of a thing, another 9,999 are rightly convicted and well deserving of their "awarded" punishment, including the loss of voting rights.
The argument for allowing felons to vote is that the incarceration timeline is the sum total of the debt. This is not the case. In most states, the incarceration period is simply one facet or portion of the debt. Loss of the right to keep and bear arms, to vote in elections, and to fill out a job application without checking the "have you ever been convicted..." are all part of the total debt.
Now, if a person is wrongfully convicted, and this is proven, they should be made as close to whole as possible, including reinstatement of all rights and privileges of citizenship.
If they have lost those rights, in that case, wouldn't it be better to just deport said persons? If you are going to strip rights from someone, why not just deport?
If they have lost those rights, in that case, wouldn't it be better to just deport said persons? If you are going to strip rights from someone, why not just deport?
Because if you did, you'd have to deport every person in the country, since everyone has some right or another stripped.
It's tough to type this since I am agreeing with florida.bob. I agree 100% that people who have paid their debt to society should have their rights restored. Full rights including gun ownership as well as voting.
Once they have paid their debt, they've paid their debt. They've paid their debt by giving up their liberty for a certain amount of time. Once that time is up, it's up. They return to normal society and must function in normal society. One function of that is having a say in society.
only part of the debt was paid, that was the main punishment part. they still have to put on a job application that they were convicted of a felony, they are not allowed to own a firearm, and they are not allowed to vote. they can get the right to vote back, and perhaps the right to own a firearm again, and as i said most states have a procedure for them to follow to get those rights back. but tell me, do you really want someone convicted of armed robbery or manslaughter to have a firearm? they need to earn back certain rights after they leave prison. when they are on probation, their parole officer can walk into their house at anytime and search the place, because the convict gave up the right o privacy. once they are off probation, that ends, why, because they earned that right back.
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