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Old 02-12-2014, 07:37 AM
 
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While I don't condone or approve what the officer did, he was within his rights. There were other avenues of defense to the dogs and better methods of handling them before the shooting. He was negligent in using those methods.

1. Pepper spray the dogs.
2. Use the cars loud speaker, siren or horn to alert the people in the house.
3. Call dispatch and have them call the homeowner.

He did not use training or common sense in the shooting event. He used courtesy and tact afterwards in dealing with the owner. This situation did NOT need to end in the death of the dog. Dogs do not recognize civil authority figures. All dogs are not threats to police even though they can be perceived as such due to owner training of the animal.

With children inside the house it was a very bad decision by the officer.
Then I am within my rights to shoot a pig busting through my door unannounced as was the case in Texas recently. I care more for my dog than 99.9% of society shoot him I shoot back.
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Old 02-12-2014, 07:45 AM
 
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It's not just the US. In Brisbane, Australia police blinded a woman in one eye by shooting her in the eye with a taser. .
Happens here in Canada. Young troubled youth on a streetcar, cops response is a bit over the top.
[New video] Toronto Police shoot man on street car - Dundas & Bellwoods Toronto (TTC 505 streetcar) - YouTube

If you werent counting it was 9 shots..
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Old 02-12-2014, 07:46 AM
 
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Then I am within my rights to shoot a pig busting through my door unannounced as was the case in Texas recently. I care more for my dog than 99.9% of society shoot him I shoot back.
You should also be within your rights to shoot them when they are illegally confiscating your property, illegally searching your car, etc.


Some may think I come off as harsh, but you don't see regular citizens doing the things the Police do. Why? Because there's repurcussions.
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Old 02-12-2014, 07:50 AM
 
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I agree. I remember one guy who shot a cop who threatened to shoot his dogs in Pa...dude got death penalty...unbelievable.
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Old 02-12-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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I agree. I remember one guy who shot a cop who threatened to shoot his dogs in Pa...dude got death penalty...unbelievable.
It really is. Especially when we KNOW for fact, that Police do not always act in an ethical manner. Are we supposed to become victims first, let the crime happen, and then go to report it?

We have a right to our property and personal safety.



I think everybody is seeing now, not just impoverished or crime ridden neighborhoods, what some of our forces are really made of. I'd urge all honest cops to do more to call out the bad apples and bad behavior in the forces.
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Old 02-12-2014, 08:44 AM
 
Location: California
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The dog owner is at fault, he was responsible to keep his dogs restrained, the police were called because of his negligence and service dogs are trained not to act as those dogs were so that is pure B.S. Although i feel the officer could have handled it differently it was ultimately the dog owners fault. People need to learn what personal responsibility is.
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Old 02-12-2014, 08:56 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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The dog owner is at fault, he was responsible to keep his dogs restrained, the police were called because of his negligence and service dogs are trained not to act as those dogs were so that is pure B.S. Although i feel the officer could have handled it differently it was ultimately the dog owners fault. People need to learn what personal responsibility is.
The dog was on the owners private property.
The cop was trespassing.
The homeowner would have been justified shooting the cop for trespassing, destroying his property and endangering his family.
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Old 02-12-2014, 09:09 AM
 
Location: California
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The dog was on the owners private property.
The cop was trespassing.
The homeowner would have been justified shooting the cop for trespassing, destroying his property and endangering his family.
Dream on The police were called there for a reason and it sure wasn't because the dogs were in the owners front yard. You have to be a responsible person if you own a dog, he wasn't and it's the owners fault.
You go ahead and shoot a cop in your front yard and see what happens there. The owner admitted the dogs get out, I see it all the time and I've been bit by someones pet they let run the streets. owners fault.
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Old 02-12-2014, 09:21 AM
 
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Both the trigger happy cop AND the negligent dog owner are at equal fault for this dogs death. PERIOD.

I've been attacked by a rottweiler and it is not a fun experience. Luckily I am big enough to have stomped that dog into submission and didn't have to kill it. Not everyone has this ability. The owner of that dog ended up with a huge bill.

FYI if that was a Disabled Service dog then the owner needs to get his money back or sue whomever screened and trained it.

That was territorial aggression which is not acceptable for Disabled Service dogs.
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Old 02-12-2014, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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let's just say; yes, too many cops are trigger happy, but all I had to do was see where the story came from to wonder if we know the whole truth. "The Raw" isn't known for its objective reporting.
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