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Well you do not understand self reliance and the role of Government.
Oh no, I am well aware; I am opposed to the government fostering an environment in which private individuals are allowed to use their resources to exert control over the American public, and impinge upon their self-reliance. If the right had its way, we'd privatize every social service such as police, fire, education, etc. and then everyone would be bound into paying money into private companies if they wanted to live anything close to a modern, first-world existence. This attitude is increasingly popular with "conservatives," but these were NOT things that made America strong. What made America strong was a stable middle class, and what made a stable middle class was collective bargaining and a government that was on the side of the people. Why don't you want the government to be on the side of the people?
As long as the government is controlled by the people and not lobbyists, then it executes the will of the American people, rather than the will of the very minute number of people who own banks or insurance companies, etc.
As far as schools go, the US used to have the best public schools in the world, and then Republicans started defunding them so that now they're a laughing stock. After doing this, they declared them a failure.
Wrong. The states funded them but then started getting money from the Fed. When the Fed got involved, they told the states what they can and can't do with the money.
So once the Fed got involved (liberals) that's when they went downhill.
Oh no, I am well aware; I am opposed to the government fostering an environment in which private individuals are allowed to use their resources to exert control over the American public, and impinge upon their self-reliance. If the right had its way, we'd privatize every social service such as police, fire, education, etc. and then everyone would be bound into paying money into private companies if they wanted to live anything close to a modern, first-world existence. This attitude is increasingly popular with "conservatives," but these were NOT things that made America strong. What made America strong was a stable middle class, and what made a stable middle class was collective bargaining and a government that was on the side of the people. Why don't you want the government to be on the side of the people?
You said its the government's job to take care of the people originally.
Oh no, I am well aware; I am opposed to the government fostering an environment in which private individuals are allowed to use their resources to exert control over the American public, and impinge upon their self-reliance. If the right had its way, we'd privatize every social service such as police, fire, education, etc. and then everyone would be bound into paying money into private companies if they wanted to live anything close to a modern, first-world existence. This attitude is increasingly popular with "conservatives," but these were NOT things that made America strong. What made America strong was a stable middle class, and what made a stable middle class was collective bargaining and a government that was on the side of the people. Why don't you want the government to be on the side of the people?
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I am opposed to the government fostering an environment in which private
individuals are allowed to use their resources to exert control over the
American public, and impinge upon their self-reliance.
I agree with this and hope you did not agree with bailouts of greedy banks and Auto companies. I would hope you see the repeal of Glass Steegal and too big to fail have decimated the middle class.
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What made America strong was a stable middle class, and what made a stable
middle class was collective bargaining and a government that was on the side of
the people. Why don't you want the government to be on the side of the people
Agree that a stable strong middle class will make America strong. Collective bargaining via unions failed to do that. Unions are corrupt and have criminal elements embedded. They also have a heirarchy that became no different then the corporate boards you despise. They lost their usefullness and hurt the middle class by costing workers credibility.
Government should not be on the side of the people it is supposed to be BY the people. Right now it is not by the people it is by lobbyists, ex bank executives helping their friends, and a slew of other plutocrats who have only one goal- to remain in power and stay wealthy.
As long as the government is controlled by the people and not lobbyists, then it executes the will of the American people, rather than the will of the very minute number of people who own banks or insurance companies, etc.
Dont the people also control the businesses by voting to spend dollars and do business with them?
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As far as schools go, the US used to have the best public schools in the world, and then Republicans started defunding them so that now they're a laughing stock. After doing this, they declared them a failure.
What a bunch of babbling nonsense. We spend more money than almost every other country in the world on education..
why do you feel the government is more efficient to run banking( not yet anyway), health care, schools, etc?
The problem is that without regulation (rules to follow), the private sector has a tendency to look at shortcuts which will lead to the creation of monopolies.
Teddy R. saw this and was able to break up the large trusts which were trying to run country.
Some say it is time again to put back some Regs. to try and rein in these large to big to fail banks.
Properly funded and up to date schools run by the local State Govt. are the best in the world. The key is proper funding and being willing to pay to attract the best and brightest to teach.
The ACA will turn out to be a very good plan, a lot of people have seen the benefit and the higher quality that the law has created.
A great example is the failure to protect a natural resource. Water. We have seen the failure of state EPA's to protect from chemical and coal ash spills. Again a lack of funding to properly staff.
Govt. is needed to create regulations which the private sector needs to follow. When Regs. are broken penalties need to be inforced, you need to fund these things and that takes taxes.
The problem is that without regulation (rules to follow), the private sector has a tendency to look at shortcuts which will lead to the creation of monopolies.
Teddy R. saw this and was able to break up the large trusts which were trying to run country.
Some say it is time again to put back some Regs. to try and rein in these large to big to fail banks.
Properly funded and up to date schools run by the local State Govt. are the best in the world. The key is proper funding and being willing to pay to attract the best and brightest to teach.
The ACA will turn out to be a very good plan, a lot of people have seen the benefit and the higher quality that the law has created.
A great example is the failure to protect a natural resource. Water. We have seen the failure of state EPA's to protect from chemical and coal ash spills. Again a lack of funding to properly staff.
Govt. is needed to create regulations which the private sector needs to follow. When Regs. are broken penalties need to be inforced, you need to fund these things and that takes taxes.
Just take that part about the ACA out and you will be fine.
People coming up now (progressives) were raised without a family or God. The next authoritative figure in line is the Government.
Progressives believe that people are evil and will usually do the "wrong thing" if not controlled by others. They can't be trusted to "do the right thing".
Remember when impeached President Clinton said that he was against a middle-class tax cut because the people "would not spend it the right way".
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