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Old 02-12-2014, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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Someone's Been Sending GOP Lawmakers A Bizarre Threat Over The Debt Ceiling

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A group of House Republicans has received a mysterious threat in recent weeks: an anonymous email that promises political retribution for those who vote yes to a debt-limit increase — sent to their closely guarded personal email addresses.

Because of the near-secret nature of lawmakers’ internal email addresses, the emails have raised more than a few eyebrows — and the possibility that one of their own was behind, or at least assisting in the attacks.
It's like one of those bad movies where the babysitter is getting scary calls, then calls the police and is informed that the call is coming ... 'from inside the building'!

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“It’s got to be another member. Probably one of the crazy ones,” said a Republican who had seen the email, which was sent from an anonymous email address, unrepresentative1@gmx.com.
'one of the crazy ones'? That doesn't narrow it down much.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:10 PM
 
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'one of the crazy ones'? That doesn't narrow it down much.
Lol!

Typically the header of an email contains, in some manner, the IP address of the originator.

[you can test that by sending yourself an email from any of your email addresses and scanning over the header looking for IP addresses - there will only be a few so it's not hard to spot your own. Your email-reading program might have to be set in some manner to display the full headers]
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm sure the NSA can tell them who is sending the emails.
Why don't they just ask ?
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Lol!

Typically the header of an email contains, in some manner, the IP address of the originator.

[you can test that by sending yourself an email from any of your email addresses and scanning over the header looking for IP addresses - there will only be a few so it's not hard to spot your own. Your email-reading program might have to be set in some manner to display the full headers]
It's not just that.

Inside email is intranet. Outside email is internet.
Outside email sent from a government worker would come through their VPN.

Everything is logged.
They know who sent it. They just aren't telling us.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:44 PM
 
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Sigh.

No this is not a intranet email, most likely its through gmail, they can get the general area to some degree-but they arent going to be able to tell you who or where it came from.

The NSA most likely could....but who knows.
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Old 02-12-2014, 02:32 PM
 
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They should ignore it and vote yes. Another debt ceiling fiasco is not in their best interest. Period. The far right never seems to learn.
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Old 02-12-2014, 02:47 PM
 
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:09 PM
 
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I'm sure the NSA can tell them who is sending the emails.
Why don't they just ask ?
Sure.

It's not like there's any such thing as shared workstations with shared logons.

Or, say, the ability to pick up a cheap used laptop for $50 cash at a pawn shop, use it via public wi-fi to do nothing but set up a freemail account and send a bunch of emails, then never use it again.

Oh, wait, that's exactly what anyone with at least a rudimentary understanding of networks (or, say, the ability to spend 5 minutes researching the issue online) could do. It could be done in, literally, two hours for the cost of a fraction of a staffer's daily salary.

The NSA could read such an email, but would be as clueless as you and I as to who sent it.

There are more esoteric ways to mask the source of an email, but those right there are among the simplest.

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They should ignore it and vote yes. Another debt ceiling fiasco is not in their best interest. Period. The far right never seems to learn.
The vote was yesterday, genius. Boehner had the sense to ignore the 88% of House Republicans who wanted, as you put it, 'another debt ceiling fiasco', and hold a vote so that the Democratic minority, along with a few Republicans who will be savaged by most conservatives in the coming days and weeks, could see that the bill passed.

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Old 02-12-2014, 03:15 PM
 
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Sure.

It's not like there's any such thing as shared workstations with shared logons.

Or, say, the ability to pick up a cheap used laptop for $50 cash at a pawn shop, use it via public wi-fi to do nothing but set up a freemail account and send a bunch of emails, then never use it again.

Oh, wait, that's exactly what anyone with at least a rudimentary understanding of networks (or, say, the ability to spend 5 minutes researching the issue online) could do. It could be done in, literally, two hours for the cost of a fraction of a staffer's daily salary.

The NSA could read such an email, but would be as clueless as you and I as to who sent it.

There are more esoteric ways to mask the source of an email, but those right there are among the simplest.



The vote was yesterday, genius. Boehner had the sense to ignore the 88% of House Republicans who wanted, as you put it, 'another debt ceiling fiasco'.
Even with "shared" they can still narrow it down.
To think this email is completely untraceable is laughable given what we know already about "spying"

Corporates work with static IP's.
VPN's work with semi-dynamic IP's
ISP's work with a cluster of IP's
Individuals can work with either depending on what they do…www or VPN
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The vote was yesterday, genius. Boehner had the sense to ignore the 88% of House Republicans who wanted, as you put it, 'another debt ceiling fiasco', and hold a vote so that the Democratic minority, along with a few Republicans who will be savaged by most conservatives in the coming days and weeks, could see that the bill passed.
I didn't notice that the e-mail was only sent to representatives and not senators and had visited a thread immediately before discussing Ted Cruz's possible filibuster. And I'm multi-tasking. Rudeness isn't needed.

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