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Old 02-13-2014, 07:55 AM
 
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You applaud stealing from some to give to others who did not work for it?
Medicare, Medicaid, SSI, and various disablity programs have been around a long time. None of them are revenue neutral. Republicans are pretty silent on reforming Medicare...wonder why?
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:56 AM
 
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I certainly applaud getting as many Americans access to HC as possible. At this time, we have not yet grown up enough to establish a Universal HC System, but we are moving in that direction.

So, what you're saying is, you like theft, but you're unable or unwilling to acknowledge your own beliefs since it would discredit you.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:56 AM
 
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I would hope so, since that is a big part of the intention of the Law, AKA, get more people covered.
The intent of the law isnt to put the taxpayers on the hook for peoples insurance costs.. It was to insure PEOPLE WHO WERENT INSURED.. not cause people to lose insurance and then celebrate cause the obtain insurance agin..

Thats like celebrating people having lunch after they just took a ****..
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:57 AM
 
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Medicare, Medicaid, SSI, and various disablity programs have been around a long time. None of them are revenue neutral. Republicans are pretty silent on reforming Medicare...wonder why?
Who cares?

Democrats are, as well.

That doesn't change "theft" into "not theft".
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:57 AM
 
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It seems so. The numbers are adding up..

Obamacare enrollment is up again | MSNBC
Not really. The freaking web site is not built quite yet.

Obamacare Enrollment Hits 3.3 Million (but not really)

The administration continues to say it cannot estimate how many people who have selected plans have actually paid a first month's premium since the payment system has not been built. Experts and journalists who have spoken to insurers say the total percentage who have not paid is around 20 percent. This means it's possible HHS is now double counting some people who were dropped after failing to meet a mid-January deadline but are now applying again.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:57 AM
 
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I certainly applaud getting as many Americans access to HC as possible. At this time, we have not yet grown up enough to establish a Universal HC System, but we are moving in that direction.
They have never had the ability to have access to HC?

Really? What alternate universe do you live in?
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Old 02-13-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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Hey, I need all lefties to pledge me that they will all send me $1. I'm asking for 10,000,000 pledges...and you know what...I'm gonna go spend that $10,000,000 because I know everyone will pay!

Leftist thinking....
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Old 02-13-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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They have never had the ability to have access to HC?

Really? What alternate universe do you live in?
In the alternate reality where "an insurance policy" is deemed "access to health care".

None of it is true or rational, but that doesn't matter. The rhetoric is all they care about, because they hope people believe the lie.
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Old 02-13-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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Reality is irrelevant to conservatives. Public policy is irrelevant to conservatives.

The original argument was the website sucked which it did, but the other argument was that no one was signing up the plans were too expensive, nobody wanted this, blah, blah, blah.

So now that the enrollment numbers are looking a lot better. They'll ignore the enrollment numbers and or create these conspiracy theories about why the enrollment numbers are fake or don't matter.

Finally after 10's of millions of Americans get insurance because of the new Law, they'll switch to another argument, oh people are just getting welfare. So either way they'll be vindicated about the law.
Did you miss the numbers?

6.3 MILLION are now on medicaid, and while 3.3M insured would normally be good news, its not considering THEY KICKED 5 million off of policies in order to get new people insured.

If you are reobtaining insurance you lost, you cant really claim its a benefit, can you?

and since it appears about 90% of them (including the medicaid enrollees) are being subsidiez, where is the money going to come from if not by way of taxes on everyone else? And if such high numbers are being subsidized, then how will it add $1T surplus to the federal government, or cut the cost of insurance?

A complete idiot celebrates repairing damages that didnt need to be caused to begin with.
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Old 02-13-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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It seems so. The numbers are adding up..

Obamacare enrollment is up again | MSNBC
A simple question How many people have actually PAID for ObamaCare? Not "enrolled" but, paid.

You CANNOT answer the question because there is NO mechanism for HSS to know according to the head of CMS.

Enrolled ONLY means you have put something into your shopping cart. They have NO idea beyond that.
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