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Look, just because Miss Kitty said "leave your irons at the door boys" doesn't mean it was legal for her to do so. They wanted a drink so they indulged her.
If she had said, "Leave your irons at the door, boys, or stay out.", then that would have been legal.
She can't prevent them from carrying guns. No one can.
But she can keep people from entering her property (or in this case her boss's property if he says so) for any reason... including if they are carrying guns.
I think the point being made is that Californian cannot simultaneously restrict both open carry and concealed. The may be able to restrict concealed carry but would have to allow unrestricted open carry.
Yep, that's the essence of the ruling.
This time.
Nows we ned to get working on the next case, and the one after that.
We've got about 30% of what the 2nd amendment says now, with this latest ruling.
Time to start working on getting the next 30%.
And after we secure that, then we start on the remainder.
The gun-grabbers will never give up peacefully. You'll never hear them say, "Gee, I guess the 2nd amendment is serious when it makes no exceptions to its statement that the right shall not be infringed, and allows no 'reasonable restrictions'. So we'll just repeal all our so-called 'gun control' laws to properly align ourselves with the Constitution."
In your dreams.
They aren't interested in obeying the Constitution or anything else. So they'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming every inch of the way. Not because kicking and screaming is a GOOD thing, but because they choose to react that way, every time.
For what, refusing to enforce an unconstitutional law? Do you know the huge majority of Colorado Sheriffs have pledged not to enforce Colorado's unconstitutional gun laws? No, the Feds will have to come in and do the dirty work. Some Sheriffs have also said they will arrest federals intruding into state business.
For what, refusing to enforce an unconstitutional law? Do you know the huge majority of Colorado Sheriffs have pledged not to enforce Colorado's unconstitutional gun laws?
I thought you meant, what if the Sheriff refused to grant carry permits to people on grounds that they hadn't shown "good cause", in the face of this latest ruling that the "good cause" dodge is unconstitutional.
In other words, what if the Sheriff kept violating the constitution even after this court pointed out that what he was doing, was unconstitutional?
Which is why I provided the link I did in reply, to an incident where a Sheriff did exactly that... and the people reacted.
P.S. They didn't just react with petitions and polite requests.
I thought you meant, what if the Sheriff refused to grant carry permits to people on grounds that they hadn't shown "good cause", in the face of this latest ruling that the "good cause" dodge is unconstitutional.
In other words, what if the Sheriff kept violating the constitution even after this court pointed out that what he was doing, was unconstitutional?
Which is why I provided the link I did in reply, to an incident where a Sheriff did exactly that... and the people reacted.
P.S. They didn't just react with petitions and polite requests.
Obviously you vote him out next election or have a recall, which we can't do with political appointee activist federal judges.
All states should be "shall issue" and there should be universal reciprocity.
We have to battle state by state.
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