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Old 02-14-2014, 11:43 AM
 
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If holding a weapon is the only way you can get people to pay attention to your opinions, it should tell you something about the quality of your opinions. Oh, and that isn't respect.
Hard to get your opinions heard when you have mass media/big money/left wing politicians against you. Fear/respect who cares...it gets the point across nice and clear.

 
Old 02-14-2014, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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What, Cruz pulling a grandstanding political stunt? No way!
Maybe he'll read the cat in the hat this time. (and get the moral all wrong)
 
Old 02-14-2014, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Hard to get your opinions heard when you have mass media/big money/left wing politicians against you. Fear/respect who cares...it gets the point across nice and clear.

The opnions are being heard. The problem for you is people and THE LAW disagree with your opinion.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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Fear/respect who cares...it gets the point across nice and clear.
That it does. But is "I am so bad at arguing my opinions, I need to resort to violence" a particularly worthwhile point to get across, in your opinion?

Sure, if I find myself faced with an enraged gorilla, I will probably readjust my behavior as regards ownership of bananas. That's not respect, it doesn't make the gorilla right, and it ultimately tends to end badly for the gorilla.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 12:05 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Good luck getting a Constitutional Amendment, you have better chances of winning the lottery than seeing a Constitution Amendment that says marriage is between a man and a woman.
A congressman from Kansas has drafted a bill with the intention of amending the US Constitution that will declare marriage is restricted to only opposite sex couples.

It seems unlikely this effort will see fruition.

However, it must be pointed out that a constitutional amendment is the one option - and perhaps the only option - opponents of legalized same-sex marriage have.

The major polling organizations - Gallup, Pew, Quinnipiac, etc. - have published data that says the majority of Americans are in support of marriage equality. Therefore, all of these protestations made by those opposed to it, I think, are in vain.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 12:09 PM
 
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They should call the bill what it really is.

The Ability to Discriminate Regardless of Supreme Court Rulings Act of 2014.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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A congressman from Kansas has drafted a bill with the intention of amending the US Constitution that will declare marriage is restricted to only opposite sex couples.

It seems unlikely this effort will see fruition.

However, it must be pointed out that a constitutional amendment is the one option - and perhaps the only option - opponents of legalized same-sex marriage have.

The major polling organizations - Gallup, Pew, Quinnipiac, etc. - have published data that says the majority of Americans are in support of marriage equality. Therefore, all of these protestations made by those opposed to it, I think, are in vain.
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They should call the bill what it really is.

The Ability to Discriminate Regardless of Supreme Court Rulings Act of 2014.
That seems to be the gist of the bill that just passed in Kansas:

What The Hell Just Happened In Kansas? « The Dish

 
Old 02-14-2014, 12:23 PM
 
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This guy thinks he's a martyr, doesn't he? He only commits to losing fights because it's safe....he never would have to take responsibility for any controversial legislation.

Is this really what the GOP needs? More intellectual dishonesty and rhetoric in favor of actually working together and coming up with legislation? Are they rusty because they haven't done this in decades?
 
Old 02-14-2014, 12:36 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Sue and Jane are the same sex and therefore can't marry. Marriage is between man and woman.
Sue and Jane, and Bob and Steve, can marry in my state and a number of others, with more coming soon.

No matter how often you repeat the mantra of "between man and woman," it is only wishful thinking on your part.
 
Old 02-14-2014, 12:43 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Sue and Jane, and Bob and Steve, can marry in my state and a number of others, with more coming soon.

No matter how often you repeat the mantra of "between man and woman," it is only wishful thinking on your part.
The mantra that bears repeating is: Marriage Equality is coming to all 50 states. Believe it!
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