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Old 02-15-2014, 11:13 AM
 
Location: East Amherst
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Self-hating?

Why are you so bigoted against people who struggled against homosexuality and won?
There is no 'struggle' against homosexuality, you are gay or you are not, there is no choice, there is no winning or losing. It is what it is, you either accept your sexuality or you live a life of misery trying to be someone you are not.
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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YES, in some fashion....
Wrong.

One does not have to have a mental disorder to need therapy.

Do you believe that grief is a mental disorder?
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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There is no 'struggle' against homosexuality, you are gay or you are not...there is no choice, there is no winning or losing.
Actually, people struggle with other abnormal feelings besides homosexuality, so it is not as clear cut as you want to paint it.

It may be that in some cases a conscious choice is not made, but there are people who know that something is wrong, and those are the ones who seek help.

This bill will deny them the help that wish and need.

Why do you wish to deny them the availability of therapy to assist them in their struggle?
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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No he didn't change any feelings. Alan Chambers HIMSELF said that he is not attracted to women, and he is still attracted to men.

So what changed?
He chose to marry a woman.

That is a rather big change right there.
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Get used to disappointment, your life will be full of it if you continue trying to control others.
Why is the gay army trying to control everyone who does not agree with them?

Practice what you preach.
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: East Amherst
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You mean they are so intent on proving christians wrong they will go against ANYTHING a christian is for. Sorry not me. Only indoctrination going on here is YOU and the homosexuals trying to push YOUR view of things on gullible children, you are trying to achieve the brainwashing as fast as possible and are making sure the parents can't raise their kids as they see fit. I see right through you.
The only view I am pushing is the truth - that being gay is perfectly natural, it is not a disease, nor is it "mental disorder". You have yet to provide any facts from modern day medical publications/journals that are not religious based that prove any different.
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:24 AM
 
Location: East Amherst
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Actually, people struggle with other abnormal feelings besides homosexuality, so it is not as clear cut as you want to paint it.

It may be that in some cases a conscious choice is not made, but there are people who know that something is wrong, and those are the ones who seek help.

This bill will deny them the help that wish and need.

Why do you wish to deny them the availability of therapy to assist them in their struggle?
Because the so called "therapy" is ineffective and causes more harm than good, it's more inline with a form of torture than anything else. Why you'd advocate torturing children is beyond me...
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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The only view I am pushing is the truth - that being gay is perfectly natural, it is not a disease, nor is it "mental disorder". You have yet to provide any facts from modern day medical publications/journals that are not religious based that prove any different.
I am interested in WHY is it ANY concern of yours or any other homosexuals concern about who decides to get therapy? Its their body/their choice...aren't you liberals all for choice? I guess its only a good choice when its to murder a baby but not when its to heal something they themselves feel is a mental illness.
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You don't seem to understand Homosexuals do stay away from children,
Not true.

There are homosexuals who willfully deny a child a normal family structure(usually lesbians denying the child a father through IVF) and many other gays who adopt kids(often gay men who don't have an egg to be artificially fertilized).

They selfishly use children in an endeavor to force societal acceptance of their deviant lifestyle.

Redefining marriage is bad enough, but using children and acting against their best interests to further the agenda is beyond the pale.
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:35 AM
 
Location: East Amherst
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I am interested in WHY is it ANY concern of yours or any other homosexuals concern about who decides to get therapy? Its their body/their choice...aren't you liberals all for choice? I guess its only a good choice when its to murder a baby but not when its to heal something they themselves feel is a mental illness.
Because 'they' are only going to 'therapy' in the first place because 'they' have been brainwashed into thinking that being gay is wrong. Again please show some modern day medical evidence that suggests being gay is a mental illness (evidence that does not come from a religious source).
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