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Old 02-15-2014, 12:25 PM
 
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Whether there is a 2nd vote is not simply an issue of not disobeying criminal law.
So what would it be based on?

 
Old 02-15-2014, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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heh. In the good 'ol south, there are no jobs, In Tenn. you have to be white and poor to be privileged enough to work in a "right to work " (aka fire w/o cause ) state.

I see the OP still has her hatred of transplants and northerners going strong. Same reason home "skoolin" is so popular in the good old south.

They pay schoolteachers 25k in Tennessee. The economy is abysmal.

Ignorance has led them to being the largest takers of WIC, and Medicaid for unmarried Appalachians, no husband or job, no income.

"And that's what I lobe about the South". an old song.
Why is it that (almost) no one on this site understands how cost of living works?

Median starting teacher salary in Tennessee is $34,098, for the entire country it is $36,141.

The cost of living in Tennessee is 90.2%.

$34,098/.902= $37,803. So teachers starting out make more than the national average relative to cost of living in Tennessee.

Now let's compare that to some "rich" northern states:

New York= $43,839 and cost of living is 136.4%

$43,839/1.364= $32,140

Connecticut= $42,924 and cost of living is 132.6%

$42,924/1.326= $32,371

Maryland= $43,235 and cost of living is 119.9%

$43,235/1.199= $36,059

New Jersey= $48,631 and cost of living is 130.0%

$48,631/1.300= $37,408

Massachusetts= $40,600 and cost of living is 122.1%

$40,600/1.221= $33,251

NEA - 2012-2013 Average Starting Teacher Salaries by State
Cost of Living Annual Average 2013

Calling southern states "poor" because their nominal salaries are lower than in other places is like saying Americans were poor in 1990 because the median household income was only $28k.
 
Old 02-15-2014, 12:28 PM
 
Location: NJ
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So what would it be based on?
Rumors from political circles, like Corker's. This union drive was welcomed by VW-there was no threat work would leave if it passed. Truthfully, the no vote most likely makes it less likely VW will grow this plant.
 
Old 02-15-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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Rumors from political circles, like Corker's.
They weren't rumors were they? He said them. I read about them. It appeared to me that he said what he said.
 
Old 02-15-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: NJ
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They weren't rumors were they? He said them. I read about them. It appeared to me that he said what he said.
The company made public statements about the innaccuracy of Corker's comments.
 
Old 02-15-2014, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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You failed to address any of my points.
I did address your point.

Detroit is a failed City inasmuch as Afghanistan or Libya are failed States.

Detroit is a shining example of what the Democratic Party can do you for you....destroy everything.

Cities are corporations....after all, they are incorporated. The share-holders are the residents. City government has one and only one function, and that is to coordinate services ---not provide them --- for residents to meet the following 5 core/essential needs...

1] Security -- police
2] Safety -- fire and other emergency services
3] Clean drinking water
4] Sewage & Garbage removal
5] Infrastructure maintenance

That's it.

If a city is doing anything else, it is wrong, unless city residents score the city at 96+% rating in each of the 5 essential needs....only then may cities pursue other interests, provided the residents agree to it.

Taking care of the 5 core/essential needs is what keeps business and industry from fleeing, and what attracts new business and industry; it is what keeps residents from fleeing and attracts new residents; it is what brings in visitors and tourists. All of that in turn attracts/expands arts and entertainment venues, which in turn brings in new business and industry, new residents and more visitors and tourists, and it just keeps going in a Beautiful Cycle.

Unions destroyed it.

Unions coerced city governments into providing services, instead of coordinating services. Unions bled residents dry. Bad government --- Democrats -- taxed the snot out of everyone and cut the 5 core/essential services in order to pay the union extortion demands and to redistribute wealth.

Business, industry and the most productive residents flee, leaving nothing but blood sucking turds.

When did any of the unions in Detroit ever go on strike to demand good government? To demand competent government? To drive out corrupt governments?

Name any time a teachers' union ever went on strike to protest inappropriate changes to curricula? To protest bad administration? To protest bad policies harmful to students? To protest bad city or county government?

If the UAW had gone on strike in protest of city government's policies, maybe Detroit would still be thriving instead of being an hell-hole.

In fact, when has any union ever done anything for the community?

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First, what is a "living" wage?
There's no such thing.

Left-Wing Nut Jobs refuse to attempt to define it in objective terms. All you get is lots of vague nebulous feel-good Orwellian double-speak nonsense.

Addressing....

Mircea
 
Old 02-15-2014, 12:43 PM
 
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The company made public statements about the innaccuracy of Corker's comments.
I guess I certainly don't know what all he said. What I saw him say were his opinion. He is the expert on his opinion.
 
Old 02-15-2014, 12:47 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I guess I certainly don't know what all he said. What I saw him say were his opinion. He is the expert on his opinion.
Too bad he isn't an expert on factual information anymore.
 
Old 02-15-2014, 12:50 PM
 
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Too bad he isn't an expert on factual information anymore.
O.K. but how will that grant a second vote?
 
Old 02-15-2014, 12:56 PM
 
Location: NJ
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O.K. but how will that grant a second vote?
When the NLRB finds the UNTRUE rumors possibly influenced the first vote, it will have no option other than to nullify the first vote.

It is the same reason one cannot yell fire falsely in a crowded theatre..without facing prosecution.

I am stunned Corker was this blatantly stupid.
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